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  • Brea's Guide to Dancers

    This guide contains information on both Blade Dancers and Spirit Dancers. I'd like to thank the Dancers of the Dancer Official Discord
    for helping me out with the Spirit Dancer information. This guide wouldn't be where it is without their help.





    Notes:
    - SD's 'pure' build does not level any of the bd tree skills, they are taken for utility only (Bladeflip and Swivel charge to be exact) and was
    a recommended build for SDs by Naijaz.
    - SD's awakening is also bugged; CM 2 is not refreshing CD by 1 s, Awakening Dusk Hunter is not applying crit resist debuff, and Awakening Praetor
    does not receive Wide Stingers +90% crit buff

    Credits:
    - Arctic for helping make this guide have correct information
    - The Dancer Official Discord for help with errors and the SD part of the guide
    - SachiMizora's Pyro Guide for inspiration on the set up
    - BD Image found here: http://i.imgur.com/ixTxG6G.png
    - Rose Petal Divider from here: https://veffoundation.files.wordpres...es-divider.png
    - Artwork of my Blade Dancer made by Byebi, FlutterMuffin, & Ysther~ ♥

    Gameplay Video:
    Last edited by Breamiin; 06-23-2017, 02:39 PM.

    Discord: Brea #0582 | Sig Shop: Siggies | Dancer Guide: Here

  • #2
    Incredible guide. 11/10. Amazing job brea❤
    No longer playing.
    Discord - DeadlyMerc #2604


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    • #3
      Thank you Deadly ♥

      Updated the guide for the Blade Dancer side; Pure PvE build and rotations section have been updated.

      Discord: Brea #0582 | Sig Shop: Siggies | Dancer Guide: Here

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      • #4
        Hello, due to technique changes, Spirit Dancer can no longer Tech Abolisher since it would require the sacrifice of Praetor (both on earring now). I wanted to know if my Tech choices were decent enough :

        Necklace : General Dawnblade
        Earring : Praetor
        Ring 1 : Dusk Hunter due to the spam
        Ring : Sting since it's not a filler compared to Swirlign dervishes (or do I make a mistake ?)

        As for crests, you say Illusion Gaze CD should be used for consistent resets but then you sugget Illusion Dance CD soon after. Got me lost there.

        Finally, since we can't take Abolisher tech anymore, is it still a good crest or should it be Dusk Hunter,/Swirling dervishes or even Sting ?
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        Main : Pyromancer/Saleana (Maybe Black Mara)
        IGN :Tirlarna

        Open to questions on discord/Forum, guide is dead, RIP
        Discord : Axxon (Tirlarna)#4316

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        • Axxon
          Axxon commented
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          Thanks for Feedback.

          Official crests : Illusion Dance CD, Praetor Dmg, General Dawnblade DMG, Abolisher DMG
          Techs : Praetor, Dawnblade, Dusk Hunter, Abolisher

        • HeavensBlossom
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          You can also use dusk hunter dmg crest since dusk hunter will be one of your top dps skills =). I switched abolisher dmg with dusk, but that's just personal preference

        • SkitzoRoy
          SkitzoRoy commented
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          Ok, here me out on this..
          Another idea is.. you could get a 93 tech for Sting along with a cooldown crest to replace that Abolisher crest.
          Comparing Sting tech'd w/ a cooldown crest to Abolisher tech'd w/ a dmg crest:
          Sting would do 8014.5% and Abolisher would do 7956.48%. This is if all of Sting hits and both explosions after Abolisher hit.
          Sting's cooldown is basically 7 seconds now, Abolisher's is 6 seconds.
          Sting isn't camera locked, Abolisher is.
          Sting doesn't have an iframe, Abolisher does.
          You can cancel Sting early with tumble or a skill, can't w/ Abolisher.
          Sting has a wide aoe, Abolisher has a long aoe.
          Abolisher puts you in the air (but not high enough to dodge stomp mechs), Sting keeps you on the ground.
          Sting has a long cast time, Abolisher has a medium cast time. (Stalker would be considered a short cast time)
          Sting's 7 second cooldown means that as long as it's recovering cooldown, it's completely safe to use GDB so you don't have to keep track of whether Sting's buff is about to run out. (Meaning GDB's animation takes a little over 2 seconds and since Sting's buff lasts for 10 seconds, you'll have a free 3 seconds to use GDB in case your rotation ends up with that happening no matter what.) Also, I'm able to use 2 full Stings instead of 1 before my next burst w/ a cd plate. Note though: maxed crit changes GDB's usefulness and throw's out this point entirely... Sting's main priority is buffing Prae/GDB and if GDB ain't putting in any special dps (since every skill is critting), it's just really for Praetor which is instantly cast so..
          Abolisher's 6 second cooldown allows the use of an iframe 2 seconds earlier than the normal 8 second cooldown of Abolisher.
          Both have their ups and downs, but Sting's tech allows you to get a 93 tech vs Abolisher's 90 tech.
          Plus, most bosses aren't huge, so, besides a dragon, unless you purposefully tumble backwards and use Abolisher, you probably won't get both explosions (or sometimes even 1). (Tumbling backwards is risky and increases your technical cast time for Abolisher).

          Now, you might be thinking, "But SkitzoRoy, the cast times between Abolisher and Sting are quite marginal, I could use Stalker and Abolisher by the time Sting would be done therefor doing more damage." and if you are thinking that, you must also remember that with the way SD rotations work, you'll get off the same number of Stings, Abolishers, and Stalkers for about any rotation that doesn't have awkward pauses with no skills to use in them. In other words, after you Dance 2/3 and burst with Prae, GDB, Dervs, DHs, CH, and Acan, you'll have 4 skills left to wait for those cooldowns to come back: another DH, Abolisher, Stalker, and Sting (with Acan coming up soon too assuming it's used early in the burst), and most likely, you'll have enough time to use all of them (or even just Stalker and Sting) before the next burst is up.
          However, if there was a 2 second window to do damage (before a boss uses a mech/started iframing), of course, Abolisher+Stalker would be better than trying to fit an entire Sting in that 2 second window. But, really, how often is that situation going to come up where Abolisher, Stalker, and Sting are the only skills you're considering to use in this 2 second window that you don't even know about? Plus, if you're in one of the harder nests without IDNLs or someone carrying you, you'll probably have more situations where you're able to use all 3 of these skills.

          Either way, whichever you decide to do, as HB basically said, DH's damage will most-likely outshine Abolisher's now, so a DH dmg crest would be better than an Abolisher dmg crest. Dervish tech I wouldn't recommend much since a boss would have to stand still for that entire duration for all the damage to apply. Plus, dervishes is kinda bugged now.
          Oh, I'm also currently using an Illusive Gaze cooldown crest opposed to an Illusion Dance cooldown crest as it seriously cleans up the timing of it in my rotations. I basically don't have to wait for my burst to come back up before using it again, I can just spam it and it flows really well (and the iframe is so nice). Illusion Dance cd crest only helps cut off about 6-9 seconds off of waiting for Dance 2/3 and I'm usually saving that for when my burst skills are about ready to be used again anyways. But, for dps, I would say Illusion Dance cd crest is better, was just throwing this out there.

          But yeah, just thought I'd post something kinda different and from my point of view of not having any op-gear (Just evo nightmare/coma and/or hunting rufus stuff). Having Sting's and Illusive Gaze's buffs up all the time makes the class more enjoyable for me as well.


          Math:
          Sting dmg: 6165% (tech'd) * 1.3 (awakening passive) = 8014.5% (w/ a damage crest (*1.2) it's 9617.4%)
          Abolisher dmg: (4144% (tech'd) + 30%(4144) (EX) + 30%(4144) (EX))*(1.2 dmg crest) = 7956.48%


          tl;dr: cooldown crest makes Sting fun, you could tech it instead of Abolisher.
          Last edited by SkitzoRoy; 03-26-2017, 03:27 AM. Reason: Added tldr

      • #5
        Is this guide and build for bd still viable? Any chance of giving a newbie pointers and maybe gameplay videos?

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        • Breamiin
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          This is still current for recommended build. If you want a hybrid build follow the skeleton one and put extra sp into SDs side of the dancer tree.

          As for gameplay vids I'm working on recording a granom hc solo but lack of buffer on hurts.

          For tips contact me in game: Brea
          Last edited by Breamiin; 05-15-2017, 08:59 AM.

      • #6
        Updated the gameplay video to my 50b dmg test. It was requested by Aaron. If there is any other content someone wants to see from me, feel free to suggest it. :3

        Discord: Brea #0582 | Sig Shop: Siggies | Dancer Guide: Here

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        • #7
          More updates to gear options and added ruDN to it, SD plate changes, and some rewording

          Discord: Brea #0582 | Sig Shop: Siggies | Dancer Guide: Here

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