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**KureyonNeko** · 02-20-2018, 01:39 AM

Can I ask how to upload skill build from dnsim? Sorry it's my first time trying to do this.

**[SPeanut]s** · 02-20-2018, 03:01 AM

wa nice nice

**BlessedSign** · 02-20-2018, 03:15 AM

I personally use level 5 shadow hand, it'll come handy if theres DA (dark crash) or Sniper (siege stance) since it cancels their skills, i'll just use +1 skill ring if i need it to be lvl 6 for the quick and short range. Also illusion strike deals quite the damage at maxed lvl 19 it deals around 20k if landed full 20 hits. Though these are from my respawn game experience might be diff in capt mode since its more fast paced ? Idk.

**KureyonNeko** · 02-20-2018, 05:17 PM

ELpatron50 are you reffering to Blessedsign or me? I'm not pro though. I just want people to try out this class as it's seldomly used in pvp.

**yueruchi** · 02-20-2018, 07:15 PM

been waiting for this. the title got me

**SkitzoRoy** · 02-20-2018, 09:36 PM

Hello from NA! While browsin the forums, I came across this post and as it so happens, I've played quite a bit of LF in PvP. So, I'd like to give my own opinions on the guide you wrote so far. I hope you don't mind :^). (I do realize your guide is still under construction, so I'll only talk about the stuff you have at the moment).

First off, I wouldn't really consider LF's overall SAB as low tier. Shadow Hand, Ring Strike, Plasma Burst, Shadow Focus, and SSS all have what I consider above average SAB and these skills are pretty practical to land. Due to the multihit but, Chakra Grip can have good SAB too against Warriors, Pallies, and Lanceas. The clone from Summon Shadow also has decent SAB if you want to consider that. Spectral Guise and Awakened Illusion Chakra have what I consider average SAB (400). Compared to classes, (like Oracle Elder, Silver Hunter, Soul Eater, etc) I'd say LF is fine in terms of SAB.

2nd, I disagree with not getting Awakened Illusion Chakra. It is an amazing initiator that saves you from having to Tumble, especially if Rubicon is at the ready. However, I understand that this skill is highly preferable and not everyone likes it. So, I think it's fine to not take it.

3rd, I think you should mention in Ring Strike EX that using this skill from the air decreases its SA from 400 to 100 making it pretty risky to use outside of combos. Also, in PvP, anything past the default height of the skill won't add too much (if any) more damage. The opponent will end up on top of the Ring Strike, rather than below it if they are very high up.

4th, I prefer to not use an action speed plate on SSS. Having the slow version allows a LF to throw the SSS behind them when an opponent tries to dodge the skill by going beneath the LF. It also allows more time to aim. Due to it having 600 SA and putting the LF in the air, it's not that risky of a move imo.

5th, I think you should note to never ever use Chakra Grip if the LF is slowed. I'm sure you know that it makes the LF stuck in the animation for a certain period depending on the slow. If the LF were to use it in a Raven's Umbra, the LF would be stuck until Umbra ended or they used Rubicon to get out. I believe the same thing happens inside Elestra's Glacial Field. Also, the multihit bug could be mentioned here since (and this is just my hypothesis) Chakra Grip is actually slower than it's supposed to be.

6th, mentioning that Quantum Trance has 400 SA falling down could be beneficial. Also mentioning that trying to Sprint (double jump) as soon as Quantum Trance allows will most likely cause Sprint to fail would be nice too.

7th, this one is really just my own personal opinion and preference, but maxing Shadow Hand adds up to a lot of damage due to how frequently it is used. I have it maxed along with a technique accessory on my LF and it usually ends up in the top 3 damaging skills in the damage meter/counter.

8th, I max Plasma Burst due to how frequently I use and land this skill (I use a CD crest to pair it's CD with Outbreak). For example, Outbreak EX → Quantum Trance → Sprint → Plasma Burst usually allows enough time to properly aim and time the skill. As you mentioned, there is a very small iframe right as the skill is used from the air, so that also helps a lot.

9th, I'm not sure what you mean by "Forward movement via rubicon is possible only during: Chakra illusion". From what I can tell, you gain a little more distance when using Rubicon during Chakra Illusion, but it's not that significant. Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding something here.

10th, like I said before, I'm glad you said it's up to the player whether or not to get Awakened Chakra Illusion as that preference definitely varies from player to player and I don't think there's an absolute answer. Each version has it's own pros and cons.

11th, Shadow Focus can help catch AEs and other escapes if you really know what you're doing. If you're a player that times AEs, you can inflict a dark burn before making the opponent use their AE and have Shadow Focus already coming out as they land. It has 1200 SAB so they most likely won't be able to recover. Simply using it after Plasma Burst or Line of Darkness successfully lifts the opponent and they're going to have to not face you while using AE. A bit more difficult to handle imo. Also, due to Illusion Strike's infinite range bug, Shadow Focus can be used defensively after abusing that lol.

12th, I think it's worth mentioning that Spectral Guise can be used to divert skills like Tracking Arrows, Stalker EX, and Entomb. However, it can also be hit by a Shooting Star's Ping Pong Bomb which would then hit you.

13th, for "Gore Kick" I think you meant "Circle Gore" or "Gore Slam". Gore Kick is the right click attack of Assassins. Circle Gore can also be used to counter to SA skills like Shin Breaker if you're fast enough.

14th, Level 2 Clones use a 3rd attack (Level 1 Clones only use 2 attacks) so it's not just for extra damage. That 3rd attack can easily waste another escape/evade.

15th, Feint will fail from Additional Damage (Finish Attack, Ecstatic Dance, etc), being frozen, and from damage over time debuffs like burns and poisons. That's more of an Assassin thing, but it could be mentioned in this guide.

16th, Awakened Piercing Star is fine to have (it looks so cool) but I think you should note some things. Summoning the Star only has 100 SA with the awakening. The action speed of the skill is also slightly increased (now even better to use after Shadow Hand to knock down your opponent). The damage however, isn't that great for putting 19 points of SP into. It's ok, but not that great. It's also very tempting to throw in group PvP. However, I've caught myself throwing those stars instead of saving my teammates with higher SAB skills a few times. Now, I just don't take the awakening.

17th, oh boy, Illusion Strike... First off, there's an infinite range bug that can be utilized. Second, the hit box of the skill (at least in NA) is currently bugged. Using this skill after a stagger will (I think) always cause the opponent to auto stand. Even when the opponent is knocked down, using this skill has a high chance of making them auto stand. Before awakenings, this didn't happen. The damage was (and still technically is) great, but now, I think it's rather impractical to use since it can drop combos very easily (which you really don't want to do as a LF). Not to mention this skill has very low SAB (only 10 per hit

). Also, Illusion Strike → Triple Edge → Shadow Focus won't always work. Sometimes it will, sometimes it won't. I never really figured out what causes this RNG.

18th, Unseen Art is utter trash, don't even bother getting this skill. The high cooldown, low SAB, small AOE, and low dmg (while having the possibility of messing up combos) make this practically useless. In every situation, there's probably a better skill to use than Unseen Art.

19th, What you said about Chakra of Healing EX is right, but wrong. The non-EX version also allows you to backflip out (I would know, I don't waste 2 SP on the EX version). All the EX version does is give the LF a 10% damage reduction buff for ~2 seconds after every pulse. It also allows SSS to be thrown by left-clicking during the skill. That is it (for now, this skill did get changed a bit with one of the new updates in KDN as you mention later). I have found much better places to put the 2 SP. Also, Chakra of Healing's backflip has an iframe on the first backflip (similar to Outbreak EX and Plasma Burst EX). Might want to include that as well.

20th, I disagree with your healing priorities in Rounds group. I'm the only player that deserves to be healed :kappa: :^).

21st, Blessing of Ajna can heal up to 3 times in one summon, I think you should mention that.

22nd, Awakened Miracle Chakra only adds like 450 more HP. That is s*** imo and I do not bother to awaken this skill.

23rd, I disagree with your choosing of skill plates, but that's ok. Personally, I use Miracle Chakra Action Speed, Plasma Burst CD, Chakra Energy Heal Increase (though that's being removed soon), Tumble CD (very helpful against pros), or Illusion Chakra CD. I tend to believe utility > dmg in most cases.

24th, Don't forget how useful Chakra Ring is in PvP :kappa:. Gotta use that skill mid-combo to assert your dominance :kappa:.

If you have any questions or have anything to discuss about this, feel free to say so. I'll be checking in on this thread every now and then since LF has been one of my mains in PvP for quite some time and I absolutely love discussing the class.

**JimRiyo** · 02-21-2018, 10:53 AM

Hello, I'd like to share my thoughts on my PvP skillbuild here as to have others give it some thoughts as well. I read your guide and I agree with most of your ideas, however I have some parts that I disagree on too. Also, since that you're still in progress with your guide, I think I want to contribute my thoughts for your reference as well
Anyway, I'm also sharing my own opinions as well so it's up to you guys whether to follow what I share or not.

First of all, I do both PvP types: Group PvP and 1v1. But I use the same skillbuild for both.
https://dnskillsim.herokuapp.com/sea/lightfury-95/-H---0--04000--050330--3F--0G-900010E0-000002---0---A0---0--00--00---0------0--0-00-----0--0

Things to take note:
1.) Mental Mastery & Mind Conquer
• Maxed it out for maximum skill utility and casting capacity, the more mana you have, the more offense and support you provide. As for Mind Conquer, The mana regeneration is important in case you "completely" run out of mana, cus Chakra Heal costs mana too. If you don't have mana at all, the only other ways for you to get mana are through Automatic Dispenser or by dying.

2.) Spectral Guise
• I didn't take it because you mostly use Full Brightness instead, which is more efficient since you often chain your combos at melee range, especially if you plan to use Ring Strike right after Full Brightness.
You might already have too many skills to fit in your skill hotkeys anyway lol.

3.) [Awakened] Chakra Illusion
• Now, I find this a very useful skill because it has 4 functions (imo): initiation, escape, pursuit, and retaliation. Whether you can start a fight or run away from one by using it, chase down a runner, or evade an attack then counter your enemy with a Blink Strike. It's a very convenient skill to have, especially the good SA break the hit comes with

4.) Chakra Ring
• Okay I don't find this skill useful at all, since you only seldomly run a straight line throughout the entire PvP environment. Also, Even if you do run a straight direction, the change of elevation of the terrain will render it completely useless.

5.) Line of Darkness
• I kept it down at level 1 to be used solely for combos and utility. I think it deals decent dmg by itself already.

6.) Unseen art
• A territorial skill, just like Inquisitor's Consecration, and Elestra's Glacial Field. You can also use it to amplify your combos if you have time to cast it while your opponent is stuck in the air.

As for Skill Heraldry Plates, I use different kinds depending on whether I want to do 1v1 or Group PvP. The plates are my choice, so it's all up to you if you want to follow it, just like whether you want to follow the skillbuild or not.

Skill Heraldry Plates for Group PvP:
•Chakra Heal [Action Speed]
•Chakra Miracle [Cooldown]
Sunshine Spark [Damage]
Ring Strike [Damage]c
Chakra Energy [Cooldown/Heal Rate]

Note: The top 2 plates are a necessity for LF in group PvP, since your main role is still to support as usual. The last 3 plates are my recommendations, but it's up to you which two of those you plan to fill up the remaining slots.

Now, for 1v1 PvP (especially in softban rooms), you should completely forget your role as a support and fight like you're gonna destroy your opponent. Because you can die easily, your greatest asset will be your speed and evasions, dodging the opponent's attacks and counterattacking right after. If you keep running, then you'll be caught eventually. So the best option is to fight back.

Fighting against melee classes: (Flurry, Ripper, Guardian, etc.)
• It's best to keep your distance from them a bit. Once you get caught in their combos, you're good as dead. So be sure to observe their moment and keep evading, while at the same time counterattack and combo if given the opportunity.

Fighting against mid-ranged classes: ( Dark Summoner, Elestra, Moonlord, etc.)
• Depending on the situation, you need to either stay back or get close. Being just within their reach will grant them an opportunity to lock you down, so you have to lock them down first before they do the same. If they run away, that will give you some time to heal up and attack with long ranged skills. You still need to be careful about their disables though.

Fighting against long-ranged fighters: (Sniper, Gear Master, Black Mara, etc.)
• You will now have to chase them and lock them down, since they can even hit you from a distance and you may not even have time to heal up. But beware, once you get close to them, it can get more dangerous.

Skill Heraldry plates for 1v1 PvP:
Because both evasion and speed are LF's greatest assets in 1v1, I think these plates will do just fine for your survival:
Ring Strike [Cooldown]
Line of Darkness [Cooldown]
Sunshine Spark [Action Speed]
Chakra Miracle [Cooldown]

Note: The Line of Darkness and Ring Strike plates will be convenient in chaining your combos early on, so you will have an easier time controlling the opponent. As for Sunshine Spark action speed plate, It is a better choice to ensure its accuracy that it will hit. While for the Chakra Miracle cooldown plate, you will be able to heal up as soon as possible when space is created.

Well that's all I think based on my experience. Feel free to share your thoughts about it as well. Also if the TS finds this helpful, you can use this as a reference for the completion of your guide.

PS.
I miss the old [spoiler] feature back in the CC forums...

**KureyonNeko** · 02-21-2018, 08:18 PM

JimRiyo SkitzoRoy wana collab on this guide sirs?

**KureyonNeko** · 02-24-2018, 06:10 PM

Update:
Added Secret scrolls section with video.
And special thanks

Can I ask how to embed the video like in other guides so they can play it here instead?

**KureyonNeko** · 03-08-2018, 11:48 PM

Think the guide is complete. How do i change It's title ?

**JimRiyo** · 03-10-2018, 08:27 AM

Well, here are the PVP updates for Light Fury taken from the KR 03/07/2018 - Labyrinth (95.11.KR) Translation [credits to Vahr (but not sure which Vahr lol)]

Light Fury
Outbreak EX
•3s cooldown reduction added.
•Damage increase of the last slamming attack changed from 30% to 50%.

Ring Strike EX
•Damage increase changed from 30% to 50%.

[Awakened Passive] Piercing Star
•Damage increase changed from 20% to 200%.

[Awakened Passive] Chakra Illusion
•Damage increase changed from 20% to 100%.

Chakra Grip
•Cooldown reduced from 12s to 10s.

Unseen Art
•Cooldown reduced from 45s to 35s.

And with the 200% increase of Piercing Star, I'd say it would now be an incredibly powerful skill to have since it is one of your most spammable offensive skills. And considering that you can throw it 3 times, The total damage would be 1404% (1685% using atk plate) for 3 throws in a row. It is now becoming a threatening long range attack and a more essential skill to have in group PVP.

All in all, the boost is more focused toward LF's offense and mobility, in which imo, the boost is a great help for us to survive.

**EnmeiKouki** · 04-21-2018, 11:43 PM

with regards to the incoming Healer Patch next month;

[Awakened Passive] Miraculous Chakra
- The proportional heal now applies faster.
- Changed the rate of the proportional heal from every 3s to every 2s.
- Duration decreased from 15s to 10s.
- Added enhancement effects for Pulse Ring:
Cure effect added.
Damage reduction effect increased to 50%.

Does this mean need to cast Miraculous Chakra first before Pulse Ring? Or its an added skill effect if you learned the passive?

source: https://blog.divinitor.com/blog/2018...#light-bringer

**KureyonNeko** · 04-25-2018, 02:07 AM

I'll update this guide when the changes come to SEA o3o.

**SkitzoRoy** · 04-29-2018, 10:53 AM

Alright, I have some free time now, so here's the "hidden" changes that happened during the 2 patches that updated LFs (according to the skill simulator).

Next update:
Class Mastery 1 now requires Chakra Cure to be taken. (PvP, PvE)
Chakra Heal becomes an infinite heal in PvP. The EX applies a heal from 35% of your pdmg w/ each pulse along with the 0.4% heal.
Ring of Energy loses the cure ability and the damage reduction buff is nerfed to 30%. (PvP, PvE)
Awakened Miracle Chakra heals by an extra 50% of your physical damage instead of 5%, 5 times in PvP.

Next or Labyrinth's update (not sure which update changes this):
Unseen Art's damage goes from 100% to 814% in PvP.

Everything else that I noticed was posted in Vahr's translation of the patch notes. I already got Fabulous to put these changes on the Class Updates document if you'd also like to see them there along with everything else.

My comments on these hidden changes:
Chakra Cure suckssssssssssssssssss and is gonna make me waste 10 sp now...
Unseen Art's damage buff is ridiculous. Right now, it does about ~1.6k per tick in PvP. The buff should make it do near 13k with each tick. This skill finally becomes able to do damage, with its potential being huge. I can easily get 7-8 ticks while comboing someone in it. That's 90k-100k total damage, which doesn't even count for the damage done by the skills to make Unseen Art go off or any damage buffs and debuffs...
Probably gonna take the Awakened Miracle Chakra passive now.. It should heal an extra 4k and give Ring of Energy its cure and dmg reduction back.
LFs back to healing all day in Respawn bois :^)

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