Gear being valued more over player skill? IDN rant

[Tiyara]

I think for new/casuals

raids> returned dragon nest > new nest > remade nests

but for some reason, L-Grades this cap makes everything except 8man raids trivial

I started in 80 cap and I remember even VN Abyss was troublesome sometimes for LGraders.

[LunarsMedicalCondition]

What the Flying-F is your Problem. That was totally uncalled for, Lunar Was totally not involved with this thread until you said something, you and your associates need to stop drinking the superiority kool-aid

I agree, very mean and uncalled for. Sometimes I blank out due to a medical condition.

It's not my fault if I'm super dizzy at times , I am not bad

[2GenDiesinIDN]

Wilson I thought I told you to turn off the stream!

Now everyone knows I'm always dying and getting carried in IDN.

Good thing my elite hardcore team from Otium can stay alive otherwise I would never be able to clear.

[CraZyZeuS]

Dam that's quite a statement from someone who has over the HP requirement for RDN HC and still dies multiple times in a single sale run.

[iLLbeURaPPLEFarm]

Just plain sick of gear and skill requirements in Dragon Nest? Why not become an Apple Farmer? Anyone and any class can do it. Best of all no gear is required and you don't have to worry about recruiting people or applying to a team.

Be the Best. Be an Apple Farmer today.

[Patrache]

The reason people take players based on gear is because it is much easier to judge a player on gear than skill. Once you become familiar with the community, you are aware of which geared players are not that great when it comes to exploration raids. Many players are better off nuking content than doing lengthy content - it seems fatigue grows on them as time passes by. What I mean by this is certain players tend to make mistakes despite knowing the mechanics and end up dying near the end of the boss.

You can't evaluate an individual's skill unless you watch a lot of streams. Not many competitive players will come out and admit they're not good and a lot are just delusional. For example, LunarForce would not accept your statement if you told him he was bad.

DPS is a great way to evaluate someone's gear and ability to dish out DPS. However, it does not necessarily mean they can survive when it matters. In my opinion, you need to find players that can survive if you want a competitive team. A team with a lot of DPS that can't clear content is just a sign of mediocre players.

How I evaluate a player is based on how well they do in new content or when the situation is not ideal and they can still survive. Also how fast they adapt to their mistakes and how much DPS they dish out based on the gear they have.

Sadly our player base doesn't have too many of these kind of players as many of the old true raid vets quit a long time ago. What we have now is an abundance of coal, and everyone is trying to seek out that diamond.

What the Flying-F is your Problem. That was totally uncalled for, Lunar Was totally not involved with this thread until you said something, you and your associates need to stop drinking the superiority kool-aid

[aaron]

Please stop bullying Lunar. You and your whole guild need to take several seats.

To be fair, Lunar comes off as a bigot loud mouth. At least from an unbiased point of view here :^).

[miki]

Its just the way the game is now, we dun have any difficult contents besides raid so yea ppl gona die a lot when they have to actually try at the game. '-'
Ever since we got 90 cap we had 0 content to keep seasoned players from getting rusty and we finally got a content 1 yr later of baby content to finally have a challenge and most people that are still here from old times got very rusty imo and everyone else is casual/new to do idn. I always say we need more challenging non-raid content like de or trial nest so people dont forget how to play well, but people say the game needs to be more casual. But how can players compete on raid when all they learn is ezpz contents?

[LunarForce]

Vahr & Ael's team did it as part of their recruitment process.

[Rinkie]

Skillful players are ideal to have, but gear is an absolute must when you do not know the player's play style.

On that note, I doubt Raid Team's that are recruiting will ask for game-play videos as anyone can easily skew their overall perception easily.

[Shs]

You can develop skill quicker than gear.

That being said, if you check for gear (which is extremely easy & fast) you have a much larger net, and more of the time you will recruit somebody who is also skilled.

The exception to the people being recruited are gold buyers, and the exception to the people who are not as geared are ones that are currently climbing the gear ladder with a high skill level, due to the nature of DN (stated as my first sentence).

[Bozeck]

Yeah, I agree I think there's a lot of criteria to judge someone on besides gear and that gear is easy to check out for an easy first impression.

Survivability and how fast they can adapt are the most valuable traits to have. I think too many people being used to nuking content even old raid content or getting carried by someone or people with op gear has diminished the overall skill level of the playerbase.

[Dark]

The reason people take players based on gear is because it is much easier to judge a player on gear than skill. Once you become familiar with the community, you are aware of which geared players are not that great when it comes to exploration raids. Many players are better off nuking content than doing lengthy content - it seems fatigue grows on them as time passes by. What I mean by this is certain players tend to make mistakes despite knowing the mechanics and end up dying near the end of the boss.

You can't evaluate an individual's skill unless you watch a lot of streams. Not many competitive players will come out and admit they're not good and a lot are just delusional. For example, LunarForce would not accept your statement if you told him he was bad.

DPS is a great way to evaluate someone's gear and ability to dish out DPS. However, it does not necessarily mean they can survive when it matters. In my opinion, you need to find players that can survive if you want a competitive team. A team with a lot of DPS that can't clear content is just a sign of mediocre players.

How I evaluate a player is based on how well they do in new content or when the situation is not ideal and they can still survive. Also how fast they adapt to their mistakes and how much DPS they dish out based on the gear they have.

Sadly our player base doesn't have too many of these kind of players as many of the old true raid vets quit a long time ago. What we have now is an abundance of coal, and everyone is trying to seek out that diamond.

Please stop bullying Lunar. You and your whole guild need to take several seats.

[LunarForce]

no matter how many times you say my name I won't go on a date with you ZeuS I don't roll that way.

[TrumpForce]

You can't evaluate an individual's skill unless you watch a lot of streams. Not many competitive players will come out and admit they're not good and a lot are just delusional. For example, LunarForce would not accept your statement if you told him he was bad.