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  • Replacement for Awakened Laser Cutter idea thread.

    so its fairly obvious that most warmage players don't even learn the awakened laser cutter passive since they'd rather spend there laser energy on Ray rather than Cutter. the point of this thread is to come up with some possible replacements for that passive to get something more fun and/or useful and hope that Eyedentity might take notice. So I'll go first.

    I think we should get an awakened Arcane Overdrive that lets us manually activate Force Shield by left/right clicking during Overdrives cast since having to get hit on a glass cannon to (maybe) get our damage buff seems rather silly to me.

  • #2
    Fair enough, but if this is getting a proposal then I also say CM charged missile awakening NEEDS a replacement. I actually know of some wm's who use LC awakening, I do not however know a single CM that learned charged missile.

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    • Nogarde
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      I just looked over Chaos Mage Awakening skills and my first concept idea for redoing them would be to move the CD on hit from the Charge Missile passive to the teleport passive so when you successfully hit with teleport you get 50% CD refund.

      The new passive I'd make would be for Black hole: Lower CD to 15 seconds and on hit apply a debuff to make the target take 20% more damage (doesn't stack with Mirror) for 20 seconds. this would allow a CM to not dip into the WM tree to get mirror which is a large SP investment, and make black hole a truly useful skill for the first time since CBT.

      With all this said I haven't played CM since 70 cap so there could be something better to add that someone else could think up.

  • #3
    Instead of letting lc consume bubbles as an awakening, I was hoping it would travel faster and explode sooner instead.

    And about that charged missile thing for cm's, I believe letting gravity blast be the awakening instead and having it lower the cd of all orb skills by a x amount per hit would have been more fluid for them. (probably 1 sec per hit as it hits multiple times)
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    • Echelos
      Echelos commented
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      ^ !!!!!!!!!

    • Echelos
      Echelos commented
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      also about charged missile passive being changed. I was thinking either:
      1. ctc x3 on gblast
      2. simply an enhanced gblast that does increased dmg
      3. gspark additionally resets the cooldown of gblast (along with its current torbs cd reset), i currently already cast gblast in between gspark and torbs instant so this wouldn't change rotations at all.
      4. hitting an enemy with gblast reset's blackhole cd and activates blackhole instant (new instant making blackhole viable for once in the history of dn)

      oh and gravity well instant needs to have a separate cd from gravity well considering the instant gives 0% dps increase.

    • ILLbeURdeath
      ILLbeURdeath commented
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      Those are some good ideas , make blackhole useful. I've always liked using it but can only really use it clearing dungeons, against bosses which are immune to cc and it gives no debuffs, there is no reason to cast it. The animation too long, the damage too little...

  • #4
    I really like idea threads:

    Mastery of the Secret Arts (Arcane Overdrive):
    • Active Laser skills are changed to Light Elemental
    • mAtk bonus is removed and replaced with a +20% Light Elemental buff (free up plate slot)


    Explosion Mastery (Laser Cutter):
    • Right-click, while the beam is active to manually explode the Laser, dealing full board
    • The explosion animation has been changed and the diameter has been increased (by x1.5)
    • Activation window is 5 seconds, stacks up to 2. The right-clicking effect, can be used, while your other skills are active.


    Imo, the Charged Missile Passive, should be changed to one, that benefits either Summon Comet, Black Hole or both. Since most awakening passives are suppose to either enhance, or fix the gameplay of those classes.
    Last edited by iCerulean; 10-18-2016, 04:37 PM.

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    • #5
      Originally posted by iCerulean View Post
      I really like idea threads:

      Mastery of the Secret Arts (Arcane Overdrive):
      • Active Laser skills are changed to Light Elemental
      • mAtk bonus is removed and replaced with a +20% Light Elemental buff (free up plate slot)
      Explosion Mastery (Laser Cutter):
      • Right-click, while the beam is active to manually explode the Laser, dealing full board
      • The explosion animation has been changed and the diameter has been increased (by x1.5)
      • Activation window is 5 seconds, stacks up to 2. The right-clicking effect, can be used, while your other skills are active.
      we were supposed to get light elemental as well as elemental party buff, but for some reason was scrapped; I suggest that this be implemented
      I also agree that laser cutter awakening is pretty useless when bubbles could be used elsewhere
      Last edited by Some Asian Guy; 10-18-2016, 04:46 PM.
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      • iCerulean
        iCerulean commented
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        Ya, since our Nightmare Class is going to be Dark, I don't see why they'd refuse to change WMs to Light. I mean, Sorcs can learn how to use more than one type of Magic, or even change one form of Magic into another.

    • #6
      Originally posted by Alphexis View Post
      Fair enough, but if this is getting a proposal then I also say CM charged missile awakening NEEDS a replacement. I actually know of some wm's who use LC awakening, I do not however know a single CM that learned charged missile.
      Not only that but our Gravity Mastery passive that leaves behind the orbs for our awakened skills doesn't actually do anything outside of allow our new skills to actually do damage, where as every other awakened class actives don't need a passive in order to deal damage, so really that passive does nothing. Teleport awakening is awesome with the increased casting speed but gravity well instant doesn't do any increased damage so that passive also doesn't affect dps either. Basically everything except Dark Mastery is pointless. Its incredibly frustrating.
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      • ILLbeURdeath
        ILLbeURdeath commented
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        I agree, I like the two new moves and the increase in damage but we're still lacking in terms of dps at times.

      • Echelos
        Echelos commented
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        focus gravity is alright (good dmg but buggy af), but gravity rush is pointless and i almost never use it besides to chase mobile enemies. just the passive skills in general really don't *do* anything. :/

      • ILLbeURdeath
        ILLbeURdeath commented
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        focus gravity is a very nice nuke when it wants to hit/do damage, I can hit 20-25 mil per ball sometimes, taken out whole bars xD on bosses but yes it's very buggy and half the time at least does ZERO damage.

        rush is pointless in raids but very useful clearing dungeons, if they could up its damage and make it an iframe but reduce its duration greatly, it could be useful everywhere

        and I agree, we only got the one good dark damage increase passive, charged missile is a complete waste and I could never use it whereas I could use rush as is but would also prefer some changes done to it

        In the end, I like the changes but more needs to be done to help it be with the dps leaders among the top tier, as it stands now it's mid tier at best. My cm has my highest in town damage (at 156k) of my mains (gm - 148k'ish, reaper - 150k) but does at least 50% less damage in nests/raids. That's an awakened class competing against a broken non awakened class and a former top tier non awakened class. One would expect more :c (only iw's and pryo's seemed to have gotten that "boost" I speak of and can compete (probably not win) with the top dps classes, I've been tempted very much so recently into making either).

        We'll see what happens, this is the cap of balance changes, perhaps people in the other servers are saying the same and the devs listen and make changes. They've hit some classes right on the head with awakenings thus far, perhaps they'll see fit to improve what they've done thus far with sorceresses, primarily cm's and wm's.

    • #7
      Homing Nine Tail Lasers.

      Homing Laser Cutter with increased movement speed.

      Homing Force Mirror with have reflective property that'll bounce off any projectiles as well as lasers.

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      • #8
        I want to get kamehameha, final flash and spirit bomb.

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        • #9
          Would be great if Comet and ack hole get enhanced like pyro's new active skills. I mean, they woul leave the charged missile as it is (with a increased range and dmg...) but instead of reduce the orbs cd, it should have a rate to enhance both skills... like:

          Enhanced Comet: open a bigger dimmensional portal, which w will fall 3 other coomets from it (just like meteor shower)


          Enhanced Black Hole: Strengthen the suction effect as increase its dmg. when black hole finish it will explode and leave a big gravit blast the deal 200% dmg . (of course the black hole enhanced would casts faster and deal faster dmg while sucction is active)


          Thats my two cents :$

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