next hc raid only clearable with p2w items?

[BeMyMentor]

is it true u cant clear 8 man rune nest hc without p2w items?

asking for a friend

[OneMysteriousGuy]

Pray that they change the time limit or its impossible for most of us. Just to add to that most of the DPS have 400 + town damage however I think I stick around since they releasing volcano nest in 95 cap hopefully we have 6 man nest

source: http://blog.divinitor.com/blog/2017/...el-cap-lvl-95/

[Tiyara]

So why did they decrease the time from 60 to 40?

[OneMysteriousGuy]

So why did they decrease the time from 60 to 40?

they release it with 40 minute to begin with.

[Omnicide]

SEA has cleared in 32 minutes 7 man or something like that, and they don't have conversion costume NA can clear it with their top teams.
RUDN IS also a very hard raid, players complained Dragon nest was too easy, and said costumes were making IDN A joke... so they make a harder raid with a time limit, then everyone calls it P2W.
They just cant win.

[milktoast22]

take off all the op broken cash gear then see how fast they clear

game gear balance is broken. take off ur racing set, broken ec accessories and see how much dmg u do

[(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻]

It's harder than idn. Other than that the mechs are recycled from previous content like rdn.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

SEA has cleared in 32 minutes 7 man or something like that, and they don't have conversion costume NA can clear it with their top teams.
RUDN IS also a very hard raid, players complained Dragon nest was too easy, and said costumes were making IDN A joke... so they make a harder raid with a time limit, then everyone calls it P2W.
They just cant win.

Video PLZ vongola yeh? they prob have rune by now that's why they can 7 man all their dps is max fd you cant compare us to them how many players max FD in the team? I don't know about you but my team only 2 max FD. Look at their insane stats anyone in NA have these kind of stats please show http://forum.cherrycredits.com/topic...-by-vongolavn/

[Omnicide]

Yeah i've seen the clear thread XD and watched Chellys video.
(If that isnt the thread forgive me for not clicking the link and just guesstimating)
Also good point, i think the clear team had Rune weapons x1 or x2 already doing sell runs so scratch what i said before thanks for calling that point out i forgot LOL.
But uh, if the raid is unclearable, I highly doubt that they would leave it like that for NA, if i remember NA didn't clear RDN HC in 80 cap either, they will probably increase the time or do something to fix the problems like in.... 40 cap for NA was it? ( I wasn't here but i heard NA had a easier SDN / Didn't partake in the server race ETC ? ) so I wouldn't worry about something that is not yet here.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

there only 2 issues right now if they fix it I think a lot of players come back first make Unique costume trad able via market not server storage since its so broken. Secondly its fine to give us 40 minute for HC for a month or so then change it to 60 minute so most of the team has a chance. My friend is in vongola they are super rich compare to our Raid seller here the guild leader has 50 mil gold lol. They only log on to raid they don't nest or anything sell run go alt sell run

[Omnicide]

I know right this would fix everything +1!

[WhaleThen]

there only 2 issues right now if they fix it I think a lot of players come back first make Unique costume trad able via market not server storage since its so broken. Secondly its fine to give us 40 minute for HC for a month or so then change it to 60 minute so most of the team has a chance. My friend is in vongola they are super rich compare to our Raid seller here the guild leader has 50 mil gold lol. They only log on to raid they don't nest or anything sell run go alt sell run

Yup on top of very basic things like making all costumes tradeable, bringing back daily dnp etc. Doesn't seem like any of this will change, ED seems content with the loss of players, dissatisfaction and frustration from the community etc. Its not out of reason to believe that they will continue to make somewhat fatal decisions regardless of community backlash, simply because they think they can make it up to players by doing A B C. Everything and anything outside of the realm of what the community wants.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

Yup on top of very basic things like making all costumes tradeable, bringing back daily dnp etc. Doesn't seem like any of this will change, ED seems content with the loss of players, dissatisfaction and frustration from the community etc. Its not out of reason to believe that they will continue to make somewhat fatal decisions regardless of community backlash, simply because they think they can make it up to players by doing A B C. Everything and anything outside of the realm of what the community wants.

seem like all our effort was not in vain Dean reply and ask give them time they fixing issues one at a time so I will believe him and see how things turn out. Lets not push them to hard guys, DN is love DN is life lets give it another chance > http://forum.dragonnest.com/forum/ge...-veteran/page4

[Durandal]

Class buffs and raids are over-hyped and exaggerated to an obvious extent every time. It is pointless to persist in blindly believing in everything that this eyesore of a community says. Harder than IDN? IDN was never challenging; I'm certain that the real raids have been long forgotten by most of the few that are left of the veterans. How close the first clearing team cut it is moot when they cleared it faster than any other raid except possibly GDN, which truly says something about these newgen raids. There is simply no challenge left; what remains instead is the brainless task of gearing. To put it simply, the endgame no longer yields anything to feel accomplished of when everything comes from simple-minded tasks and being a proud NEET unless you're swiping the card. Both routes lead to a conclusion of empty accomplishments.

To answer OP's question: yes, chances are high that you will be required to acquire p2w shit unless you're going above and beyond in masochism and have completely maxed out in-game gear without cash shop influence.

[josephkusoman]

The problems of dailies DNP is the bot can log in can get dnp and sell jelly. I believe if they put a limit like do dailies quest*5 to get the dnp what will be nice. BOTS CANT DO DAILIES EASILY. This might solve the problem and keep player to focus on farming and dailies pt will make DN more activity.