Way too many people are quitting Please do something about it!

[Dom]

Ever think that maybe people are quitting because of the game itself not just the events? Be real, there is very little content, and almost none of it enjoyable. All the new nests are just some boring punching bag that you need to run 3x to get some stuff to make gold/craft items. IDN is super boring and most people don't feel like running it anymore. The only reason people still grind the content is because they have this obsession with getting better gear, but once that drive to be stronger is gone, the game becomes the most boring thing they've ever played.

The problem with DN is that once you reach end game, the game itself isn't actually fun. All the fun comes from gearing up/getting stronger. Take that away and you have people with no goal and no enjoyment, so they quit.

[Dom]

Other MMOs have content to do that is enjoyable. A lot of prosperous MMOs actually have things you can do once you have good gear. In DN all you can do is sell IDN HC runs for gold to save up for next cap.

[ceruulean]

Yah dn used to have a lot of equalized content and pvp related stuff, or even just guild acheevments to help ur guild get cool mounts and wings but now it's all gutted

Well pwrleveling noobs is still an option now

On that note aren't we supposed to have Guild RDN that's adjusted for 93 cap

[Dom]

More re-used content. So fun.

[Platinum]

Hello, I haven't posted on the forums after misunderstanding something and blowing something out of proportions.... I felt bad for that, but from a new players perspective conversion costume seemingly being out of reach is a major turn off and I do feel like I want to quit playing Dragon Nest because of it.

[Asal]

I think it's out of reach for just about everyone.. I think those with 2k usd to spend on 5 pieces of costume probably aren't wasting their time playing dn anyways lol.

[WhaleThen]

Right Asal, like do they think they are fooling here?

[GatTheRipper]

Ever think that maybe people are quitting because of the game itself not just the events? Be real, there is very little content, and almost none of it enjoyable. All the new nests are just some boring punching bag that you need to run 3x to get some stuff to make gold/craft items. IDN is super boring and most people don't feel like running it anymore. The only reason people still grind the content is because they have this obsession with getting better gear, but once that drive to be stronger is gone, the game becomes the most boring thing they've ever played.

The problem with DN is that once you reach end game, the game itself isn't actually fun. All the fun comes from gearing up/getting stronger. Take that away and you have people with no goal and no enjoyment, so they quit.

Make dis shit open world, with world bosses / raids and shit B

OR make Dragon Nest: *insert name here* (an open world) and allow the transfer of the characters in Dragon Nest to that :^)

[Dom]

Game management aint my issue

[Ardelline]

You cannot really make DN open world due to the engine it runs on, the hope of Dragon Nest becoming open world died with the Dragon Nest 2 project.

[GatTheRipper]

I know, I wasn't being serious with this comment :L

[RubyArt]

Okay...Let us suppose for a few minutes that Conversion threads become tradeable. What would their prices be? At this rarity, I doubt they would be any less than 40- 50k gold. How many people can afford this? This still presents the problem of A LOT of players not being able to afford it. People with 100 farming alts? No problem. People who buy EC? No problem. People who sell runs? Yea, no problem.
Where I am leading is making conversion threads tradeable will not fix the real issues.

[ceruulean]

yah it's pretty obvious tradable conversion costumes won't fix issues, we already have tradable epics but can't trade wings/tail/decal

Well ed said they'll never make ec items tradable so ya none of this will ever get fixed

[Gold]

the heck? it would fix an issue even if you cant afford it you can always save up for it...... with gold
this is more wanted by the players who dont spend money on games.

[ceruulean]

Yah but the costume itself is so rare and its actaully limited edition so once it gets removed... u cant get it again
then the noobs will feel worse they already complain it's veteran's nest do u really want to make it "super veteran spender" nest

[Tiyara]

A lot of this could have been fixed a long time ago. The same issues pop up over and over again when a chunk of the population leaves. Content is too stale, forums are dead, people are dickheads, the game is too p2w, no tradeable ec, etc etc etc etc etc...

Its always the same issues. eyedentity know how to make a game but they don't know how to operate it.

There is nothing they can do because they have no idea what to do with player criticism and suggestions. Personally, I will give them a few months and see if Zeus's thread had any impact on them.

Be sure to check out the leak on romniaty nest

which will be up in a few hours

[OneMysteriousGuy]

There no hope left for NA. Even those who spend money on this server taking a break that say a lot. Most new players are confuse with reading all these thread don't know where the game direction is heading yet GM won't update us on the situation. Look like that dream of moving to Sea will be a reality soon. I make this clear Sea is not noob friendly at all so if your a new player you will find it extremely hard but look on the bright side with 100 US dollar you can buy 100 k worth of gold so......

[Couplord]

On DN SEA If you are not in Legendary Gear prepare to be kicked from 90% of the parties...
As it stands I would be more likely to recommend new players come to NA rather than SEA.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

That's why if they transfer the NA player over there problem solve. Hardly any guild helps in Sea unlike NA they got everything except for the players. NA players + Sea server is the best match up

[Tortellini]

I don't think any of this will do much. It's too late unless they rebuild and overhaul the game in an extremely major way. A significant amount of people have already quit and got rid of their gear, sold their accounts or outright stopped playing and logging on. These solutions won't fix the overarching problems that turn people away or make long standing players quit. If there were some kind of concrete and detailed plan that the developers laid out on how they were going to change and improve things then maybe I'd feel better about the game's future.

There should have never been stats on cash shop costumes in the first place tbh. The stats have kept increasing and increasing since the beginning but it's so far gone past the point of absurdity. With the stat ceiling being so high now any semblance of game balance is out the window, the future raid has already been affected by it and players practically feel like they have to spend or else they will get left behind in stats. I've spent on microtransactions in other online games, but it was because I wanted to and not because I felt like I needed to in order to keep up with endgame gear standards. Things like Item protection jellies that seem minor are another problem as well. I mean it's an enhancement material whose generation is reliant on people spending on them and is required to even safely enhance your gear past a certain point? More recently I think it's bonkers that people have to gamble on items that let them look how they want without having to worry about stats. This isn't even getting to the content related issues that people have already criticized and want changed. It's just not worth the effort anymore to keep trying to explain especially when the developer is silent and Dean50 can only offer vague promises.

This game has so much potential but it's squandered at every turn and I and probably many others don't really feel like waiting for it to improve especially when some of the same complaints and criticisms have persisted for a long while. The alluring aspects of Dragon Nest to me are the unique combat, the animations and effects, how the game controls, the hitbox based nature of it, and even the artstyle but I don't think those are enough to outweigh the other parts that bring it down so much. It's not hard to find other games with better business models that are more attractive to a wide audience. Games with bigger populations, better support, a better game structure, better content delivery etc. It's sad to see only a couple of hundred people playing at most and seeing that number continuously shrinking because of poor game design decisions and management.

[wifewithknife]

maybe there to busy building bunkers out of fear that the north Korea's might nuke them.... yaaaa that's it hast to be

[Ardelline]

I seriously believe that DNNA is beyond repairing. Major figures from the community have been voicing their concerns about these issues, but have been ignored time and time again; it is simply too late for most people.
A server transfer MAY see a minor population boom, but looking back on how the last server transfer went over it's not going to work if EYEdentity do not listen to their communities and fix issues that are being voiced. I've previously written a forum post about my problems with this game a couple months ago so I'm not going to say them here, and all those problems still stand with no sight of a change.

[Dom]

You can't really say "major figures from the community," there aren't any. To ED everyone is the same, they don't care how long you've been playing. (Plus there was really only crazyzeus)

[Brook]

Lul many vets in game still. They just don't give a fuck to voice opinions anymore since shit pointless. Just make a list of the shit we don't have yet and wait it out

[OneMysteriousGuy]

Lul many vets in game still. They just don't give a fuck to voice opinions anymore since shit pointless. Just make a list of the shit we don't have yet and wait it out

YA I'm waiting for rune and 95 cap with volcano and the new passive. http://forum.cherrycredits.com/topic...on-cdn-ver290/

[BowieSage]

I seriously believe that DNNA is beyond repairing. Major figures from the community have been voicing their concerns about these issues, but have been ignored time and time again; it is simply too late for most people.
A server transfer MAY see a minor population boom, but looking back on how the last server transfer went over it's not going to work if EYEdentity do not listen to their communities and fix issues that are being voiced. I've previously written a forum post about my problems with this game a couple months ago so I'm not going to say them here, and all those problems still stand with no sight of a change.

You know, this brings up something that I always felt was the beginning of the current trend of lacking NA quality: the transfer from Nexon to ED.

Now, to get it out of the way before I try to explain, I am not a Nexon fanboy. Never have been. My time with Nexon began with Dragon Nest, and it ended once the transfer happened. If Nexon hosts a game that interests me, I might consider going back. But as of the beginning of DN 93 cap, my time with Nexon has long ended.

With that out of the way, the reason I feel the way I do: yes, we were ALL frustrated by the lack of content and events prior to the end of 90 cap. But if one thinks about it, most of the stuff the community was frustrated by wasn't really Nexon's fault. In reality, Nexon was just the middleman and messenger between us and ED. For the most part, the primary reason for the lack of content was Eyedentity, since they ultimately called the shots over if and when content would be translated and localized for the NA server. If they felt that Nexon wasn't giving them enough for certain content, then no amount of complaining from the community would fix the issue.

When the transfer was announced, a lot of people thought that everything would suddenly become better if Nexon was cut out of the equation and the community was given direct communication with the developer (I was personally of the camp that kept a more realistic opinion: while the possibly of the game improving was certainly there, the odds were low, and we were more likely to trade one part that the community viewed negatively for another). To say the least, nothing could have been further from the truth: all that was accomplished was that the middleman, the only group that represented the NA audience in the business environment and could actually attempt to push for ED to deliver content the community wanted, was entirely removed without the underlying issues being dealt with. And as was hinted at in the quote, it didn't take long after the small population increase to figure out that absolutely nothing changed in the long run, except for one thing: without a publisher to communicate for us and/or push for changes, Eyedentity, as the developer, is given much more freedom over what we get and don't get, and can easily ignore any and all of our requests so long as the community, as a whole, only spends enough money to meet the bare minimum for content updates.

So yeah, if Eyedentity doesn't think that making conversion costumes tradeable (regardless of what price the community would set in the MP) would convince people to buy more conversion eggs (considering those that ARE spending on them stop as soon as they get their 5th thread), there's nothing forcing them to do so and thus they won't bother making any changes, especially since those costumes are untradeable on the other servers.

[RubyArt]

Yes, to what you say about Nexon not really being given content fast enough. The way I see it Nexon hosted the game but they also paid ED for rights to the game in NA.

But actually Nexon did a better job of managing the game and promoting it with the various events and promotions. They gave several opportunities for players to earn accessory sets to complete stats, so many events that were well thought out(the community came up with some of them) and they were fun. The rewards were high enough to motivate people. And they had way more interaction with the players, and input from.

[BowieSage]

I definitely have to agree with you on the part of Nexon doing a better job at managing the game, and some of the events were fun (the one that was around at the time of the Machina update gave me even more reason to try one out, and the Kali creation event was nice too (still have the title for reaching level 50 during that event on my Spirit Dancer)). Sad thing is: that's not enough for this community, which often demands the same items that cash players get without having to actually spend money for it. You give one item, ONE ITEM, that doesn't satisfy the community, and suddenly you're the worst publisher in the entire MULTIVERSE (regardless of Nexon's reputation at the time). I STILL remember all the complaining that happened after the 3-piece Crystal accessory set was distributed. It didn't match the stats of rare accessories at the time (was given its own stats, and they even SAID that the set would have its own stats, so the stats on the temp ones, while the same as rares at that time, weren't final), so people complained about it (and I think there were complaints about the 5-piece Moonlight set too, as it only gave half of each stat (even the percentage stats) compared to rares at that time, despite having the same set bonus). Personally, I couldn't care less about the stats even if you paid me. Free stuff is free stuff. You can't really afford to be entitled and/or picky about what you get in a F2P MMO. Some publishers/developers don't like that if it's on a mass scale and may, in turn, feel ENTITLED to the power to ignore any requests made by the community of one version of the game without significant personal or financial ramifications (considering our version likely makes the LEAST amount of money compared to the other servers, so the community's not really in a good position to be trying to make requests and demands until that changes, and ED likely doesn't lose much by going with their regular game plan instead of bending to NA's will).