Lunar Cancer PvP experience

[Anime Garbage]

ML is new scream simulator for 2017 because this class won't shut the hell up.

Buffing nado is stupid. It's already a stupidly ginormous hit that forces you to waste an AE and a super armor move to tank out of just its presence, shaving 2 seconds off that CD of a lingering giant hitbox is unreasonable. I wouldn't say I'm buttmad more like questioning why.

HMS Buff is OK, 45 sec CD for like sometimes 10k dmg was kinda poo, it was just gud for SA tanking.

Moonlords are a dying class because everyone who currently plays moonlord obviously used to be a bad glad. ML's new skill floor is just simply so ludicriously high that any random could pick it up and beat tons of players by mashing all the lifts. But also if they don't win its just a really really annoying match for whoever their opponent was. Personal opinion, Nado is the most annoying skill in ML roster.

Keep in mind this is from a now ML main, I know lots of people say eclipse is the worst but I've noticed its iFrame isn't consistent and you'll just get knocked and staggered out of it anyway sometimes, where as in comparison feint is very reliable for the dodging utility IMO. Nado is incredibly reliable in that you can wait for the opponent to do anything and just throw it at them. Not saying eclipse isn't a pain in the ass to counter play, but by god is it iffy when using it to dodge.

Anyway, other than Nado being even more annoying with 2 seconds off its CD, MLs are just as cancer as ever for 93 cap IMO. I'd ask for everyone else's thoughts on the Moonlord situation but I think everyone just kinda hates them judging from the 1v1s I had today, but yea sure, go crazy.

Personal Opinion, ML needs eclipse and thats it to be a good class to PvP with. Eclipse is simply too good to pass up on and losing it makes it like 90 cap ML, in that it's kinda trash. Luring and MLS are OK, fun fact Luring can tank and break barbarian whirlwind. Nado is stoopid.

[Klesh]

LK awakened cyclone is dumb because it makes your tumble bug out most of the time because of the increased suction effect, i haven't been playing at all but i still remember those times when i AE'd out of it when a LK was about to use crescent cleave or MBD and then tumble, my tumble would just not work and i would just get recaught.

I actually don't mind the increased attack speed for awakened cyclone since it's still hard for them to hit you with it when you're moving or when you're not staggered unless the LK is baiting your tumble which in that case if you spent your tumble in that moment then try to tank the first hit with a high SA skill if you think the cyclone is going to hit you.

It's crazy that they reduced the cd on it alright.

[Anime Garbage]

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LK awakened cyclone is dumb because it makes your tumble but out most of the time because of the increased suction effect, i haven't been playing at all but i still remember those times when i AE'd out of it when a LK was about to use crescent cleave or MBD and then tumble, my tumble would just not work and i would just get recaught.

I actually don't mind the increased attack speed for awakened cyclone since it's still hard for them to hit you with it when you're moving or when you're not staggered unless the LK is baiting your tumble which in that case if you spent your tumble in that moment then try to tank the first hit with a high SA skill if you think the cyclone is going to hit you.

It's crazy that they reduced the cd on it alright.

I couldn't agree more with the first one.

To Klesh, yea, the huge AoE of nado is absurd and you need to SA or have some gud footises to get out of that suction.
I would like the attack speed increase if it made the radius of the nado smaller, so its like a give and take, but since its so giant it pays well to play reactionary and just wait for the enemy to do literally any move, and counterplay with nado.

[Rinkie]

LK main, nado is cancer.. but so are female classes soo
Without nado idk how to get kills reliably, and half the time I just see people lag through it

[Anime Garbage]

LK main, nado is cancer.. but so are female classes soo

Gonna have to disagree (to an extent, some female classes just simply have an easier time, although I haven't touched my sniper in a while cuz it was pretty easy)

A good way to get kills reliably is focusing on the fundamentals of SM and using wall resets and luring stall slashes to set up for MBD or Crescent. Nado isn't really a setup move to begin with, it used to be a move that required a set up, now its just a free initiator/combo/AE breaker/SA Breaker, which is far too good for any class to actually possess.

Kinda like physician poison pool, but you can jump out of it. It's still inherently infuriating.

I can probably make a vid on how to reliably get kill setups/damage setups though, as there seem to be tons of MLs that just rely on nado/eclipse as a crutch rather than learning the ins and outs of their move kit.

[Rinkie]

Your right, as a PvE main I dont have a reliable PvP skills and have to depend on CC and Nado to get kills. If I had a PvP build I know that I could take charge and do mad deeps with Swordsman skills and not need nado or hell even CC.