My Experience In lvl 95cap And Is It Worth Playing

[Seriously]

There will be a TLDR at the bottom if you guys are too lazy to read but i recommend you guys to read my story please.

INTRODUCTION
I've been playing DNSEA since 50cap but mostly PVP only and close to none PVE (Played abit of PVE back in 70cap)
So i've decided to try PVE more seriously in 95cap, So in this post im only gonna be talking mostly about my PVE experience and not PVP
(Cause PVP is getting more cancerous and no1 should be playing or thinking about coming back to DN just for the PVP, Its so cancerous that i can write another thesis about it.)

GOALS
Full +20 Unique Hero Medea gears and to be be able to clear all nests except RuDNHC before nest resets every week.

STORY
This post will be about my experience playing PVE for 2 or so months of playing PVE in 95cap.
My goal for PVE was to be decently geared or maybe higher than average geared and to be able to clear most of the nests but maybe not the Hardcore "Dragon" Nest
So i started playing a Raven for my PVE character and basically was using the newbie +10 all epic hero set and was able to clear some small PVE content with it
Most of the time i would be playing with my friend who is a SE and is using the same gear as me and the hardest nest we would be able to clear would be the lvl 93 4 man SDN or even VNHC.(But honestly i feel SDN is harder)
But due to my friend's schedule he wasn't able to play with me that much and he has another group of friends where he can do explorations to RuDN for example.(And he gets bored of PVE very quickly after like 2 hours.)
So im left playing solo most of the time,So after awhile my friend got alot more stronger than i did cause i couldn't progress much playing solo.
So i decided maybe i should change class to something maybe more easier to gear or play.
My initial thought was to play LF cause i thought maybe i could get into pub party and i played abit of PVE back in 70cap and was only playing a LF,
Back then LF was the most broken healer in the game and i was able to clear content like 6man ordeal nest and 4man BDN memoria (if anyone remember those lol) with just rental gears in pub party.
But i know LF had some changes since then so i didn't wanted to jump right into it and so i studied the forums and youtube videos etc etc
But ultimately i started playing a Glad cause everyone in the forums was like "Just play what you like and have fun", And yes i love the playstyle of a Glad
And i was inspired by a Glad called 47BuLLet on youtube
So i used the gold that i earned on my Raven to buy a +20 Sword and +20 Upper body epic hero gear to start off my Glad.
Even so, My Glad still doesn't do that much more dmg than my Raven,But its okay since im having fun playing a Glad.

But right now im stuck and can't progress anymore because i literally can't progress solo with what gear im using,
And yes i know everyone in the forums and their mom is gonna say "Why don't you find a good guild so that they can help you?"
You think i didn't? Most of the guilds that i joined only likes to help guild mates that are in the guild for some time already and not help those that just newly joined
Or they are only willing to do DQ with you.Heck i even tried to join guilds that are in the Guild Recruitment section in this forum.
And here i am wanting to progress in the game and actually be able to clear most of the nests before the reset comes.
I even wanna do the daily VNHC runs you get from getting the additional entry pass by doing DQ everyday
BUT I CAN'T CAUSE NO1 IN THIS GAME IS WILLING TO HELP EACH OTHER

TLDR
I was a PVP player for most of my time in DN and wanted to start PVE in 95cap
Wanted to be decently geared but ultimately couldn't cause i couldn't progress in the game playing solo
IS THIS GAME FREE TO PLAY? DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE. (MORE DETAILS BELOW)

EXTRAS
And now here are some opinions/ views i wanna talk about.
:This game CAN be free to play, So long as your goal is not having full +20 L Grade Gears (Even so, i still think you can achieve L Grades without spending any money, And no im not talking about slayer gear,Im talking about legit L GRADES)
:You CAN be geared higher than average without spending any money,Which is full +20 Unique Hero Medea gear in my opinion.
But you have to have friends to play along with you or a friend who is already madly geared to help you.(My SE friend who is always playing in a group of 4 already have Unique Hero Medea Gear)
Or you can somehow miraculously find that guild that everyone says that can help you gear up.(Good luck with that)
:Making gold in this game isn't that bad, Even after buy the +20 sword and upper body for my Glad i still have around 9k Gold.

MORE EXTRAS
Now here are some thing i think should be improved in the game.
1) Improve how people can advertise their guild because this game clearly isn't suited for solo players unless you poured alot of moneys into have full L Grade gears
2) Easier ways to get certain items (e.g, Skill Reset Scrolls/Jellies/Resurrection Scroll)
Skill reset scrolls can be bought with dungeon or nest points shops in other servers so why can't DNSEA have it too?
Jelly prices are insane compared to other servers (DNNA is 10 or less gold a piece last time i checked)
Resurrection scrolls so that people in pub aren't scared to use revives after they die
3) Able to use cash potions in nests like in the chinese servers so that you don't tilt your pub party when you die so easily
4) Bump up the daily resurrection to 10 instead of 5 like in the chinese servers
5) Bring back achievement point shop

Now i wanna emphasize more on the advertise guild thing i mentioned on top,
To me MMOs all should have the same aspect of gearing up together and then once you are strong enough you should help others that are starting out from where you were before and to get them to where you are.
And that is why guilds are a very important place where you find those kinds of people who are willing to help you in the game and just have fun together
And a guild is where you can meet new people that are as enthusiastic about the game as you are, Whether it be PVE or PVP.
And that is why the guild system should be done right.
So my suggestion about the 'advertising' guild thing was maybe they could be more specific about what their guild wants to do (PVE or PVP)
And have like a rating system that is rated by the guild members itself and maybe the guild members could write reviews about the guild to say if the guild really is actually doing what they are advertising the guild to be.

THANK YOU ALL FOR READING MY POST
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME WRITING A FORUM POST SO I APOLOGIZE IF MY FORMAT IS BAD
AND THIS WILL PROBABLY BE MY LAST POST AS WELL.

[SpeedReign]

How long did it take for you to clear VNHC with only +10 Neriss Set and only 2 people in a party?

[Seriously]

Around 30mins i think

[SpeedReign]

wow, 30 minutes for Volcano Nest HARDCORE with only +10 Hero NERISS set?? whats your p/mattack with neriss, like 130k only???

[Seriously]

I think it was higher than 130k (maybe around 150k?),But yea this game isn't hard at all if you got people as motivated to grind the game as you are

[TheAyikita]

Yes that's why people who play DN solo normally quit after few weeks because DN is just not solo friendly except if you have lots of money to burn to increase your gold. But I do think that you can actually farm gold (albeit it will take longer) by utlizing the Trading House efficiently. I normally solo play as well, don't spend real cash on the game, but I am indeed lucky to be part of a guild that helps players in nests. So I do suggest you find that guild and be more friendly. Note, I've only just returned when DN transferred to ED since quiting back in 2014. I can say that it was hard at first, but if it weren't for the guild I am in, I would double quitted already after few weeks. lol

[nocturnal027]

im a solo player too, can i know whats the name of your guild?? i can be a loyal member. its just the pubs party are too cancerous now since they develop "N>HDPS" thing.

[Reyisaki]

So basically your friend leave you for another party. That is so sad ..

Remember , Helping others that is starting out isn't Geared player responsibility , its their choice to help you out . You see, the problem is some geared player really want to help but ended up being taking advantage . They all know the struggle of gearing but they still made it to the top, New player nowadays wants the easiest way to gear up and that is to be carried which make geared player have harder time to make a decision of helping new players.

As for guild, "Helping" and "Having fun together" is different . You need equivalent exchange if you want some help cause if its not, then the other party won't be having the so called "fun". But yeah ,I agree guild is where you find most of funs , but you will not feel it as new recruit , you need sometime together with them.

I do think 5 blue resurrection daily is enough , given that you are given over 80+ red resu or what so ever, I can't just understand why people won't use them? I don't really know why. Once you already know the nest well, you won't be using much resu anymore. You can use the cash potion in nest that is given from achievement box .

Comparing server from other server is useless. Do you not know that when we are still under CC, we got a lot of luxury that other server don't have? Well now , it turned upside-down .


"DN is a team game , but all loots are mine"

[Seriously]

Nah my friend didn't leave me, Its just that he has another group of people(which in total is 4) that can achievement more rather than playing with me which is only a duo.And like i said he gets bored after like 2 hours of PVE so i guess his PVE time isn't prioritized to me. And im not asking for carries from geared players when im in a guild, All i wanted was to nest as a group of 4 cause i know you can clear most of the nest in this game even if everyone in the party was only using +10 epic hero set. Like i said, i WANT to be able to clear most of the nest before the reset comes each week and be able to progress into the game.So ultimately what im saying is, i want to put effort into the game but its just impossible right now.

[nocturnal027]

I agree with you, btw.. "DN is a team game , but all loots are mine" fcking nice trademark phrase man..

[Gloiii]

I guess i was lucky when i returned playing last year, because i found joined a friendly guild and met some good friends and helped me.

I just hope most of new player that will join now can find some guild like what happen to me, so they will have fun playing this game and stay more.

[Seriously]

Yes, i am happy for you that you've found a lovely guild.But sadly for me, i couldn't find it.

[Seriously]

Would it be possible to know what guild you are in? Cause i don't think im ready to give up on this game yet as i believe there is still potential in the game so long as i can find people to party up with

[nocturnal027]

yeah pls, me too :V im thinking of quiting DN, coz i solo again for 2 months :V

[Chocorroles]

I don't understand people who complain they can't solo the game. Yes you are to play however you want, but you aren't the target audience or the reason this game is a multiplayer online. Soloing isn't supposed to be simple and easy, specially not if it compromises how content for parties is designed.

Just buy Bayonetta or some other single player.

[Vaddix]

go.jansens4 Seriously ... you can just gather people who has same mindset as you, help each other and dont forget each other once you get strong individually.

[lBlakesl]

yap its true especially fow newbie. Even me i was forced to play solo. Even DQ some people left you behind after chiron beach when your team dont easily kill the boss.

[Chocorroles]

ah I see I kinda spaced out

[fargone]

I sorta agree with you. Many people in the game have GREAT GEAR.
A few people (and guilds) are kinda snobs, seemingly they forgot how much time it took them to get the GREAT GEAR, and buildup a bank full of gold and resources.

This game is built to take time to "GROW" ultra-powerful. But being godlike is not truly required to play 95% of the content. Rune Dragon +10 gear works quite well for most everything in game.
It took me 3 months of mostly solo grinding to grow into Rune Dragon +10, and i dont fully know what im doing, so make quite a few gold costly mistakes.

None of the guilds in this game are going to hold your hand and give away alot of time and effort to someone new. It take time and effort to make guild friends.

The game became real fun for me when i stopped concerning myself with how powerful OTHER players were compared to me, and focused on playing as efficiently and effective as my toons class could perform.

[darkb1ader]

I've been playing DN SEA solo for quite some time now and honestly it all depends on contents that you want to clear.
Of course if you're aiming for nest and you don't have good gear don't expect anyone to party with you. You've seen how hard it is to clear the nest so expect not to be partied if you have +10 neris gears( You know what i mean)
I suggest earning gold through other means (Nightmare TP etc.) Clearing dungeons that are easy for you and climbing the ladder one step at a time until you have decently good gears to party with others.

For me I rarely do nest because it takes alot of time and I also don't have any friends or guild who can party with me and do nest(specially raid nest). This is why legend gears are just a pipedream for me.
When the slayer mode patch came, I kinda got excited because i thought that I could finally get legend gears quickly but I was wrong I got disappointed at first then realized that this is the one thing that I've been dreaming about,
to be able to get legend gears without clearing hard as hell nest. Sure it takes a lot of time but hey expect time to be consumed(A LOT) for player who goes F2P.


Although I kinda agree with you that playing solo is really hard specially when 95 cap hits DN SEA. Daily Quest dungeons become fvcking hard to clear(specially on solo). Not to mention the dungeon points that you get
got reduced

Anyways, I'm just saying to play contents that you can easily clear and not rush to nest immediately, actually this is one of DN's flaw, to not be able to go to nest immediately despite the game title (Dragon Nest).But hey expect that
as well cause this is a MMORPG.

Like I've said before I've been playing DN SEA for quite some time now and I actually gave up on nest knowing that it's impossible to clear it alone with sh1tty equipments of course and partying with poor gear is next to impossible
to be partied as well. But that didn't stop me from playing other contents of the game. I personally enjoyed playing Nightmare Dungeon and now I added slayer as quite enjoyable too. Just don't spam slayer too hard or it will definitely
bore you. Just try to finish how many times you or your character can clear it.

I also gave up on legend gears in the past but now I have something to look forward to (The Slayer Mode).

Anyways, hope you got inspired a little after this long talk, but if you plan on quitting the game I can't stop or blame you. I also felt the same way. I've heard that Aikawakazu (Moonlord) quit the game as well. Those guys(him and his raid buddies) invested a lot
of time in this game (probably real cash as well) I used to watch his vids specially when I just started playing dragon nest. It made me feel sad to know that he quit the game already but that's how game works. People come and go.

PS: Now i have genesis earring, genesis ringx1 epic costume and +20 neris set but still sometimes got kicked in partying with nest (and I don't mean nest raids). That's just how DN world works

[darkb1ader]

Actually you just made it longer bro.
That's the problem even if you can make it or know the mechanics of the nest you can't do it alone unfortunately if you party, no one is willing to finish it with you either because they don't know the nest or afraid of failing to finish it.

[dreadpin]

4man rudn and vnhc seems nothing gain from it eventually
at first, u will get like "o wow evolve obsession theano from rudn" > "meh it's losing atk power, weaker than neris+20 and wut no scale/wrath?"
as for vnhc, mainly for the weapon/armor stone to upgrade Medea.... so tell me about it if u gotten Medea yet

so my current view is neris+20 > farm gold > buy rudnU from other players(try not to get rip off) > convert Medea or
neris+20 > farm gold > buy rudn 8man HC svr > rudnL > convert calypse
in the end.. u farming gold for the geared ppl
and i made it to Medea...adios~

Edit: some said neris+20 can beat rudn 4 man HC...indeed but u can go ahead and try that, it ain't easy deal tho hehe

[darkb1ader]

Beating it is one thing, grinding with +10neris or less well let's see people do that over and over with neris
Anyways, i don't care about nest anymore, It's just a dream to party
All I care now are the contents that I can clear and that's fine with me.

[ArvinALQ]

well this not the same old dn anymore so ya burn some cash

[Vaddix]

Dragon Nest SEA = Inferior Mobile Application

[Joon]

I'd be glad to come with you to nests though. Just pm me in forum if you are interested.

[Mik]

Hi, if you still need buddy/ies or guild to go nesting, you can contact me.

[nocturnal027]

OMG, can i too??

[Mik]

nocturnal027 yeah, sure, just add me to your friend list or pm me here to talk about it.

[nocturnal027]

Thanks, actually i just posted a topic. if there's so many solo players in here, maybe i can create a Perma Party. but i will pm you, maybe in in-game.

[iMhyzt]

I read some players here played solo for quite some time.
In my case since my return during 80 cap, I play solo.
Til present that is.

Why?
Well there are a lot of things to consider why I choose to play solo. And here are some of those reasons:
- There was this guild who tried to teach me the mechanics of VN, yes back then there was VN already. But sadly, the one who taught me tried to press Trash talking more than the actual lesson making me hate nests more than playing solo.
- Nests have weekly limit, so if I mix both farming and nesting it would really consume a lot of time.
- Party building consumes more time than the actual run.
- That is if they don't discriminate your gears first.
- And after discriminating your gears they will decide to kick you out of party to let someone with better gears in.
- In dungeons there are times I afk a lot because of busy schedule (daddy duties.)
- To avoid more toxic players and also
-Well, loots all mine.

Well I do have a decent guild to run to but they help me by chatting me so that I won't feel sleepy.
I grind, give them guild points for an exchange, that's how I earned my LID sets (3 chars) just by grinding.
And yes there are tasks that would really make you feel better alone than with party especially when you have bad luck in RNG.