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**marzial09** · 12-13-2018, 02:15 AM

ED has been milking players since the start of their gacha events and yet the same people complaining are the ones who always get backstabbed by ED thru events like this xD its like they never learn anything....no one cares how much effort you wasted in the game especially ED why would they give a fuck how much effort you put in grinding,they only care about how much you spent on the game...

**marzial09** · 12-13-2018, 02:17 AM

In short the only way ED will take any actions to change the rewards is if players are not enticed to spend on it....which I doubt they would cuz the rewards are very very enticing indeed ( except the ladder costume...thats a big fuck you sign that they won't ever fix the ladder )

**GinuJek** · 12-13-2018, 03:06 AM

they keep on complaining but after all the tier will complete they secretly buy for their sub (seriously Human brain) ... even ED don't know where gana put theme self lots of people complain Good Or Bad Event and this event is good if u want to gear your subs character or dissemble for Librium point .

**MoonSplitterX** · 12-13-2018, 08:01 PM

This is like last year all over again.

To the players who are complaining, no one is forcing you to participate. Just sit back and wait for the next event.

You guys seem to miss the big picture here. ED controls the game content too, this means that future content is gonna be harder and will require strong gear to clear. This is just their way of trying to bridge the gap between hardcore players and casual ones. Going from neris to even T2 calypse takes eternity for someone who doesn't spend all day playing DN. They clearly want everyone to enjoy everything that the game offers.

I understand that some of you feel that your hours of grinding amounted to 18K CC. Just think of it like enjoying the journery more than the destination. The feeling of working to get get something is far greater than buying it. Deep down inside, I still feel that they are gonna add options to the rewards

**12ChopChop** · 12-14-2018, 06:04 AM

and this is why DN started with 4 servers, became 2, became 1, and about to be halved soon :3
just imagine other games, example RO, giving out cheap pay2win events to get 7 cards of your choice :3
i wonder what will happen to the server long term. Most probably like DN, server count keeps get halved lol

**Tanya** · 12-14-2018, 08:29 AM

T3 +20 isn't an ENDGAME item, you should feel dishearten when they give LJADES along with the gears. I've been grinding my gears and still disheartened after reaching T3 +10 and can't even do shit in higher labs, only the rich will get richer and poor still getting poor ( by wasting money on enhancements and waiting for enhancement event for less gold spending on enhancement ). the point is it's a big step for a lot of players who have been struggling in farming gold. what do you expect? after getting SKILA for many months then ED announces new gears and dragon etc. making Skila completely useless and you have to grind again to get the better equipment while other endgamers are getting there fast and milking money for svc. so it's a bit fair ( not too fair ) I say.

**SergeantAmerica** · 12-15-2018, 12:06 AM

For me, the main concern about event like this (which gives overpowered items to those that hasn't earned it yet) is the effect it will brings to the game economy as a whole.

Anyway, let me give you an analogy. Let say, you have just spent 4 years at a university trying to get a degree (let's say T1 = bachelor, T2 = Master, and T3 = Doctorate) to get a job you wanted ("nest parties"). And then out of nowhere, without any news whatsoever, the next day, your government decided to gives everyone in your country, be it a kid ("a newbie") or a seasoned veteran ("players with T2-T3") a chance to get a Doctorate degree (the highest degree) for a price of a 1st degree. I bet you can see why it can be a huge problems for everyone, right?

Suddenly everyone will have the credentials to do things that previously can only be done by those who are pro (aka. those who have earned by their hard work). This will not make everyone's life easier, but can only make it worse. Why? Well.. let's say you want to get a job, since everyone has the same credentials as you are, it will be harder for you to stand out from the others (this is already happening in the real world). And since everyone has the same degree, it will only lower the value of said degree (that's also why graduates from some unique but needed degree can get much higher salary than a more mainstream degree; because too many competitions = lower salary, less competition = higher salary).

And here is some of the other problems:

1) IT WILL WORSEN THE INFLATION BY A HUGE MARGIN.

Why? Because, you see.. equipment enhancement is always intended to be a "gold sink". Every (mostly online) game has a gold sink. Even we, as a living creature, has a sink. It's called "death". Imagine what will happen to our world if no one's dying? Yep. I bet you can see why it isn't good.

Anyway, gold sink is what keeps the game economy healthy, because we have all these gold coming in, we need "something" to get them out of the system, and if we fail to do that (or we don't do it fast enough, aka. too much gold going inside than outside), then we'll get a worsening effect of "inflation", in which our gold will lose value over time, until it's worthless.

UPDATE:

Giving out T3 +20 means that ED is removing a big amount of gold sink. Let's say in average, one piece of T3 +20 will need a player to shell out approx. 120,000 gold (excluding jellies and mats; like garnets) which means removing it from circulation. Now, if all the tiers are reached, that means there will be: 200,000 boxes - 20 box (event requirement) = 10,000 chars that will skip the gold sink altogether, which if combined amounted to: 10,000 * 120,000 gold = approx. 1,200,000,000g. Note that this is just a quick calculation to illustrate the point.

The other problem with injecting an absurd amount of overpowered items to the market is that it will induce oversupply to some items. Like for example, Low Jade Heart or Mid Jade Fragment, because as we know, we can get those items from Labyrinth Relics, and the stronger a player is, the higher floor s/he can do, and the more relics s/he can get. You may think it won't be a problem, which is possible but it will surely shake the market for quite some time. And this doesn't just affect current players but future players as well; especially future players, because they will miss the event and so they won't be able to compete. The only way for them to compete is to wait for another event that gives similar op items.

2) IT WILL DEMOTIVATES *MOST* PLAYERS

What I mean by "most" is these guys:

Those who made their T3 +11 and above shortly before this event (eg. 1-4 weeks ago). Why it demotivates them? Because you see.. to make just one those T3 +20, in my case, I need no less than 80,000 gold, and that's just the gold. Excluding all the time spent to do nests for lebriums, and the jellies, lapis, etc.
All of the new players who joined *after* (shortly or even long after) the event has ended. They'll think that they're unlucky and after trying to play for maybe a few days or weeks, and seeing that it isn't that *easy* to get those *instant-T3+20-from-the-event* using the regular ways, what do you think it will do to their motivation? Yup. They'll have 2 options: 1) Just don't care about it and continue to grind like madman and risked to get all of said efforts thwarted again in the future with an op cash event(s), OR 2) Just wait, play *casually*, without paying of course, because hey we all need to save for those days when there is an event like that again right? So why waste your hard earned money?

So, who is exactly that will get benefited from this event? Well, I'd say players who are casuals, or just *lazy* to grind (I'm not saying laziness is bad, this is just a game anyway). I'm actually in this bracket, I mean yeah I have T3 +20, but it's just one, just the main weapon. I'm too lazy to make the others T2, much less at max T3 +20 XD Anyway even that the event actually benefited me as a player, I'm still against it because all of the negative effects it will brings to the game.

3) THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES: THE EVENT IS LIKE ED IS SPITTING ON THOSE WHO PAYS THE SERVER THE MOST, AKA. "THE WHALES".

I don't know if you guys knows what "Whales" are, but here is a short summary: Whales are those people who are the biggest spenders in a game. I don't remember the exact numbers but whales is like only 1 or 2% of the game's population but they collectively spends more than all the other players combined, like maybe more than 50% or even as big as 80% of the game's revenue is from those "Whales". This is not only true in games but also in real world, where half of the world's wealth were owned by only a few handful of people (think Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, those rich people from Saudi, etc.).

I'm sure you guys realize that the server isn't paid by those casual players (which is the one who benefited most by the event), because casuals rarely spend (if ever). Like it or not, DN is still alive by now because the server's being paid by those "Whales". And I'm sure you guys knows who they are by now. Yup. They're those who has complete T3 +20, and complete with full rare talismans with 3rd stats. Plus a complete set of 3rd stat FD heraldries. You certainly can't have all those if you're a "casual"-type players (like me XD).

That's why I also sympathize with 12ChopChop, because even if I'm not sure if he's a big spender or not, but he earned it. That what's important. I know the pain (and time!) to do all those service's runs, and all those grinding in nests, and then have all those efforts negated in just one day. It's just too disheartening.

And the scope of this event also unlike anything I've ever seen. This is not like the Ice Dragon giveaway, because you need to spend a lot on that event (I personally spend gold equivalent to around US$ 60). And even if you spend, there's no assurance that you'll get the rewards, because only the top 10 guilds will get rewarded.

**ouenskie** · 12-16-2018, 08:28 AM

The only negative effect of this T3 +20 reward is that those who render service such as clearing nest for weak players will be greatly lessen. Well it's about time to play this game like the old days where people run nest not paying to get items and experience, but to learn how to play this game with other people while enjoying. I bet those complains and the petition to remove or replace the T3 +20 reward are the works of those who service nest run. People always complains about ED milking players, of course its normal ED is improving the game to make it more enjoyable to play. This event is good for new players and to those who lack time to farm because of work. Anyway to those who service nest runs you already milked players for a looooong time so don't blame ED for this event. Thank you ED for this event and in behalf of all my friends here at DN two thumbs up.

**Faraway** · 12-16-2018, 04:44 PM

This is a veryyy good event. Not everyone plays 24/7 like Kirito. We need to get a life out there. Grinding ingame is boring and meaningless, we have friends and family and play/work in our fxcking real life to enjoy with.

**Xenocho** · 12-16-2018, 09:35 PM

Servicer? Grinding ingame boring and meaningless and need to get a life out there?

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