[PVP] Classes's Data Compilation

[WildMist]

Hey PVP People, i've been thinking of making data compilation of classes in PVP based on my experience, so far i've been playing both in PVE & PVP for 6 years (since Early 2012) and i'd like to share my knowledge of my experiences on facing every classes i've encountered all this time in colosseum, i've rank them into 3 Categories and giving each of class 6 Skills Performance Indicators.

And since i'm not perfect, i'd like your help to give your inputs about certain class(es) if i got it wrong about class' certain indicator or rank category.

Rank Categories

1. Excellent
2. Good
3. Not Bad

Excellent: These classes can perform extremely good both in a Group PVP or in a 1v1 PVP, making these classes are very strong if played by a very skilled pilot.

Good : They usually are very good at either 1v1 or in a Group PVP, doesn't mean that they're excellent at 1v1 but useless in a Group PVP, it just meant that they can perform extremely good at one of those two PVP modes but still doing great at the other one.

Not Bad : Overall they can do great at both 1v1 or a Group PVP but sadly they're not 'that' excellent at either.

Skills Performance Indicators:
These indicators are judged by putting the name of rank categories, Excellent, Good, and Not Bad.

And the indicators are :

1. Damage
2. Super Armor (SA)
3. Super Amor Breaking (SAB)
4. I-frames
5. Mobility
6. AOE

I'll be updating this later with Excel image, this is just a 1st version which i wrote at the office using notepad

And we're just having fun here playing this game, don't make it like we're debating on Gender Equality or Gun Violence Control, BE CIVIL when it comes to discussion thanks !

[WildMist]

Finally, here's the first version of this Data Compilation based from my own knowledge :

(Ignore the rank numbers, they don't mean upper classes is better than below)

'Excellent' Classes

1. Dark Summoner
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Good

2. Elestra
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Excellent

3. Majesty
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Excellent

4. Dark Avenger
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

5. Silver Hunter
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

6. Black Mara
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Good

7. Bleed Phantom
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

8. Smasher
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

9. Adept
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

10. Blade Dancer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

11. Spirit Dancer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

12. Abyss Walker
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

13. Flurry
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

14. Defensio
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Not Bad

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'Good' Classes

1. Gladiator
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

2. Moonlord
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

3. Destroyer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

4. Sniper
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

5. Artillery
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

6. Windwalker
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

7. Tempest
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

8. Saleana
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Good

9. Inquisitor
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Excellent

10. Guardian
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Not Bad

11. Arch Heretic
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

12. Shooting Star
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

13. Gear Master
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Mobility
- AOE : Excellent

14. Ray Mechanic
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

15. Soul Eater
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Good

16. Oracle Elder
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

17. Ripper
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

18. Light Fury
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

19. Sting Breezer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

20. Ruina
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

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'Not Bad' Classes

1. Barbarian
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Not Bad

2. Crusader
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Not Bad
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Not Bad

3. Saint
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Not Bad
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Good

4. Physician
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

5. Raven
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good

[Lia]

i think u need to put healing as one of the indicator , certain class are excel , not bad and good in it

[Kuru]

There's nothing wrong with the intent to create a list like this (albeit a tier list in the end), there's a problem to upload and release it without all the facts straight since sharing misinformation can be one of the most harmful things to do tbh. I strongly suggest if you're going to undertake something like this, you enlist the help of a few other experienced pvp players to give you different outlooks on the classes.

It also wouldn't hurt to have some qualifying statements under each class as to what their strengths and weakness' are, as well as including a short description of their ideal playstyle etc etc.



Edit: Something I didn't touch on was also this - There's MUCH more to determining a class' ranking than those 5 factors, you're completely skipping out on things like:

- Buffs/debuffs
- Animation lock of skills
- Transformations for hero classes
- Skill casting time
- Evasion count/CD and their viability (For example, crisis howl's iFrame/animation lock result in the skill being punishable whereas wallop for machina is not)
- CTC allowing easy comebacks
- Health Pools
- Stats
- Class counters (i.e. how viable they are against other classes can help determine their ranking)

etc etc. Creating a list like this requires a LOT of time and research, and uploading one with lacklustre effort will often result in misinformation being spread, try to quality check things like this before uploading them!

[Icyruios]

So it is on a scale of 1-3? Not bad, good, excellent? What happen to "bad"

[Icyruios]

wops double posted......

[marzial09]

AH AOE is not bad? O A O )....... but that nigga when transformed has a huge AOE on skills not to mention his chaotic shield and devastation

[KureyonNeko]

LF iframe should be excellent due to on demand no cd quantum trace :3

[SkitzoRoy]

Changes in bold, and these are my opinions.

1. Dark Summoner
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent // Ascending Phantom is extremely good.
- Mobility : Excellent // DS are one of the hardest classes to catch, they can hover in the air, Ascending Phantom, force their Dummy Ghost, etc.
- AOE : Excellent // DS is basically all AOE.

4. Dark Avenger
- Damage : Good // DAs burst in trans, but I don't remember that finishing classes off quickly.
- SA : Good // Might be excellent due to SA buff.
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

5. Silver Hunter
- Damage : Good
- SA : Bad // Yeah, one of the lowest SA classes in the game...
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

6. Black Mara
- Damage : Excellent // Void Coil has the highest skill coefficient out of possibly every class, Poison Missile has a dmg transfer bug (hurts a lot).
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good // Being in the air a lot with Ebony Spark and Insult, Inhale has a 15 sec CD, could be 12 with a CD crest.
- AOE : Good

7. Bleed Phantom
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good // Their SA is fine, 400s are average which BP is full of.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Excellent // Invisibility spam is op, it even has a CD crest to make it a 9.6 sec CD.
- Mobility : Excellent // All they do is move around lol.
- AOE : Good

8. Smasher
- Damage : Good
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent // They cover a pretty good area imo.

9. Adept
- Damage : Good // Adepts are not excellent in damage lol.
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad // Since Volcano Jump is an Iframe, I wanna say Good here, but eh..
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

10. Blade Dancer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Good // Only the 32 and 50 has SAB really..
- Iframes : Excellent // They have quite a few.
- Mobility : Excellent // They have quite a few mobility skills...
- AOE : Good

11. Spirit Dancer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent // Pretty close to BD if not the same.
- Mobility : Excellent // Pretty close to BD if not the same.
- AOE : Excellent

12. Abyss Walker
- Damage : Excellent // I can't believe you had this as good, lmao.
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Excellent // Illusion Strike Awakened, Rubicon, and 10 other iframes lol.
- Mobility : Excellent // Many movement and aerial type skills.
- AOE : Excellent

13. Flurry
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Excellent // Just because everything is multihit does not mean they have low SAB.
- Iframes : Excellent // All 3 escapes + a parry while still having other skills with iframes.
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

14. Defensio
- Damage : Excellent // Until awakenings, their damage is ridiculous.
- SA : Excellent
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good // Besides Auto Repair... ehhh
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Not Bad


1. Gladiator
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent
- Mobility : Excellent // Hyper Drive, Line Drive, Forward Thrust, etc.
- AOE : Not Bad

2. Moonlord
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good // Their SA is fine.
- SAB : Excellent // Yeahhh...
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

4. Sniper
- Damage : Good // For now... Just wait until that Windshot comes..
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good
- Mobility : Excellent // Pretty hard to catch snipers unless you're on a really mobile class
- AOE : Good // AOE is fine.

6. Windwalker
- Damage : Good // I've never considered WW as one of the best damaging classes.
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Excellent // Double Somersault Kick and instant Eagle Dive say hello.
- Iframes : Excellent // Why was this good??
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

7. Tempest
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Excellent // Acros are evasive classes...
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Not Bad

8. Saleana
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad // Might be good, though they did lose Firewall SA
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad // Might be good
- AOE : Excellent // Sorc classes are AOE classes..

9. Inquisitor
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good // Possibly Not Bad, they only have like 4 skills above 400 SA. Many are under 400.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Excellent

10. Guardian
- Damage : Good
- SA : Excellent // Might be Good, the high SA skills are high CD besides Shield Charge.
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Good // Divine Breaker low cd, and blocks are iframes that don't fail (thats my bias showing).
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Not Bad

11. Arch Heretic
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good // Pretty close to Guard SA.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Good // Their AOE is fine.

12. Shooting Star
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent // Alfredo gives them really good AOE.

13. Gear Master
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Mobility // You need to fix yours. I'd say Good.
- AOE : Excellent

14. Ray Mechanic
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good // Excellent with Trans.
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Good
- AOE : Excellent

15. Soul Eater
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Not Bad
- SAB : Not Bad // This class struggles to knock people down besides the wolves and ghost gate.
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Excellent // Yeah, this class is just damage and aoe.

16. Oracle Elder
- Damage : Excellent // Soul Wind damage and double 50 hurts.
- SA : Not Bad // LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I'm guessing you don't know OE very well.
- SAB : Not Bad // Twister and Spirit Blow is it, Ghostly Surrender too I guess.
- Iframes : Excellent // I'd say it has enough iframes to be Excellent.
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good

17. Ripper
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Excellent
- Mobility : Excellent // They can run and chase extremely well.
- AOE : Not Bad

18. Light Fury
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good // Their SA is fine.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Excellent // Quantom Trans spam along with a ton others.
- Mobility : Excellent // They can move around... a lot...
- AOE : Good

19. Sting Breezer
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good // Possibly Excellent.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Good // Possibly Excellent.
- Mobility : Excellent // Lanceas have like the best mobility...
- AOE : Good // Possibly Excellent.

20. Ruina
- Damage : Excellent // If properly setup, this class can nuke.
- SA : Excellent // Machs are the highest SA having class.
- SAB : Excellent
- Iframes : Not Bad // What iframes???
- Mobility : Excellent // Same as Defensio
- AOE : Not Bad

1. Barbarian
- Damage : Excellent
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent // They can break shet..
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Not Bad

2. Crusader
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good
- SAB : Excellent // New changes break everything
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Excellent
- AOE : Good // Their AOE is fine while spamming Mighty Blow

3. Saint
- Damage : Excellent // If you're gonna put AH's burst as Excellent, Saint out bursts every class.
- SA : Good
- SAB : Not Bad
- Iframes : Not Bad
- Mobility : Not Bad
- AOE : Excellent // Relics every wherrrrre

4. Physician
I don't really know physician well enough and I think they're pretty weak so I wont say anything here.

5. Raven
- Damage : Good
- SA : Good // Pretty close to Ripper.
- SAB : Good
- Iframes : Excellent // They have a large amount of iframes, even if its less than Ripper.
- Mobility : Excellent// They can move really well.
- AOE : Good

Also, I kinda agree with Kura, this is somewhat of a very general tier list (3 tiers) and it only shows very general categories. Its nice to look at to know how each class generally stands within these categories (do they have SAB, SA, Iframes, etc. compared to other classes), but then putting them into tiers on whether they can 1v1 or group turns that idea around and puts it into a tier list which will never have everyone agree with. If you left out the tiers, I think this post could be really nice. Me and a couple others from NA did this thing (with some more categories like Durability and Range) in a Discord server, so I used what we have there as some of my bases for a couple of these classes.