Crusader Colloquial Compendium

[GatTheRipper]

Quick question, I used to main Guardian, and mistakenly cc'd it to Inquis shortly before 90 cap was released, and never touched it. I've seen Crusader gameplay and have played it on an undergeared alt. Now I'm not really the most funded person for more than one character, seeing as I main Destroyer and am grearing that. All in all, I'm just unsure how to really build a Sader, can someone give me a few pointers on the more cheaper side, but still effective? (Also keen for Sader awakening, mainly preparing for when it does come)

[Shuupuff]

I've kinda got the same question as Arturas. I made a Crusader as my Chronicles character, and I want to plan out my approach towards 93 ahead of time. I figured I'd be going mostly INT/light gems and INT/m.dmg acc/plates (along with the obvious crit and Wind(for extra crit)/FD(for a bit more damage) plates) since I'm not planning to use L-grades anytime soon, but I'm not exactly sure on the skill plates. I'm guessing Electric Smite DMG is a mandatory plate, but what else would be recommended?

Edit: I'm pretty sure it's not as important, but what would be a good talisman placement as well? I figured Life-Giving would be in the 100% slot, but would I go double-DMG boosting (i.e. Wise/M.Dmg) at the far left, or would it be more advisable to put something else in the 200% slot(s)?

heya, I use Electric smite DMG, goddess relic DMG, Judgemental hammer DMG and Crusader Zeal buff duration (55s -> 65s)(sometimes unreliable if buff wipes are regular)

and ive also been a crusader since the very beginning and found there is no right or wrong way to build.
So i build int as well and i use the following talismans from left to right.
Wise & mystical
Str & Dest
Fierce & windswept
Life& health

I find i get more mystical damage both during and not during Crusader zeal if i use mystical at highest slot.

[BowieSage]

I've kinda got the same question as Arturas. I made a Crusader as my Chronicles character, and I want to plan out my approach towards 93 ahead of time. I figured I'd be going mostly INT/light gems and INT/m.dmg acc/plates (along with the obvious crit and Wind(for extra crit)/FD(for a bit more damage) plates) since I'm not planning to use L-grades anytime soon, but I'm not exactly sure on the skill plates. I'm guessing Electric Smite DMG is a mandatory plate, but what else would be recommended?

Edit: I'm pretty sure it's not as important, but what would be a good talisman placement as well? I figured Life-Giving would be in the 100% slot, but would I go double-DMG boosting (i.e. Wise/M.Dmg) at the far left, or would it be more advisable to put something else in the 200% slot(s)?

[golinkgo]

As a sader what kind of gear (Accs/Gems/Plates/Techs) should I be going for? Right now I'm using all mystical theano rings and wise earrings, and int gems. Should I be using different accs/gems?

That sounds pretty good so far. If you don't go for L-grades, then you'll want more magic damage/INT. Make sure to get light gems and not mystical gems as we use a lot of light skills. Other than that, probably keep at it with the magic/intellect and some light attack, FD and critical where possible.

[Arturas]

As a sader what kind of gear (Accs/Gems/Plates/Techs) should I be going for? Right now I'm using all mystical theano rings and wise earrings, and int gems. Should I be using different accs/gems?

[golinkgo]

how much damage should I have to be considered as decent?

I think it's just a matter of perspective, honestly. Some Crus might have 130k Phys 90k Mag with 1k FD and 30% light to be decent, while some others might lurk around 90k Phys and 110k Mag with 4k FD and 60% light or something and also be decent (probably better). Hard to give a strict value, especially people's definition of "decent" is quite different. I think if you have around 200k combined Phys and Mag (leniency for those that stack INT before Wise gem changes, pre-awakening) with 40% light and 2k FD, you're at a good spot. Might be hard to be in a raid currently as a crusader. I only know a few.

[golinkgo]

Mmm. Very interesting. Thank you for sharing

[LEJAC11]

Nope theres none but what I said pretty much sum the thread up

[Shuupuff]

Yes, this is correct. In the other hand, a KDN players tested a comparison between Mag DMG&Phys DMG in Combat Training Field. -> http://www.thisisgame.com/dragonnest...rd=57&n=130612
Mighty Blow has 5 hits, 1 hit is Phy DMG and other 4 hits are Mag DMG and the skill DMG goes in seperately. He has concluded that INT&Mag DMG is better.

IIs there a translated version of that anywhere on the web?

[BokWaLa]

how much damage should I have to be considered as decent?

[LEJAC11]

I received information that INT gets boosted. That is, the amount of INT we get from wise gems will match with those of STR from brutal gems and AGI on wind gems. Don't quote me on that just yet since I have only heard of this. If this does happen, it may be good to switch to wise gems. Having said that, STR is still easier to stack if you are in L grades (if not then you almost definitely want wise gems, I reckon at least).

Yes, this is correct. In the other hand, a KDN players tested a comparison between Mag DMG&Phys DMG in Combat Training Field. -> http://www.thisisgame.com/dragonnest...rd=57&n=130612
Mighty Blow has 5 hits, 1 hit is Phy DMG and other 4 hits are Mag DMG and the skill DMG goes in seperately. He has concluded that INT&Mag DMG is better.

[Zetsuen]

So are we just gemming STR across the board now or what?

I ran quite a few calculations to test which stat was better for each given Crusader skill (the new ones as well and accounting for the new Zeal). Strength was better across the board aside from Zap; so long as Zeal was consistently maintained. Without Zeal int came out on top.

Now this was using the current values for Intellect boosts. If these values change as Link said then these results will change.

[Fuse]

I'm pretty confused with the build of my sader. Who's a good sader around here. Post some stats please. <3

[golinkgo]

So are we just gemming STR across the board now or what?

I received information that INT gets boosted. That is, the amount of INT we get from wise gems will match with those of STR from brutal gems and AGI on wind gems. Don't quote me on that just yet since I have only heard of this. If this does happen, it may be good to switch to wise gems. Having said that, STR is still easier to stack if you are in L grades (if not then you almost definitely want wise gems, I reckon at least).

[ZanarkandAbe]

So are we just gemming STR across the board now or what?