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Learn to save gold and stop splurging.

[TheKo]

70% of the game did not quit complaining about gold problems for no reason.

the other 20% left cause ED is useless.

We are left with 10% I suggest changing something cause the game isnt lasting right now.

[TheKo]

Why are the 2 clowns of DN commenting on this thread?

Beef and trump your not geared or play the game all you do is log in say the games dead for 3 hours and quit.


Everyone else who says "its not a problem" has been playing DN since 16 cap.

Seasaltcake/escorted and zeus.

You can say that all you want but more people are quitting because of this issue and it is an issue that needs fixing.

The games already back to the same population of nexon. Dont know how much worse itll be if this keeps going.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

What Developers can do is increase gold drop in nest & dailies also making mats drop from nest sell for a high price to NPC that force player to keep mats price in market at a certain level. Every cap has its up and down but hey at least with ED we get free DNP.

[TheKo]

Get over yourself. It doesn't matter how many people quit as long as there are enough whales consistently dumping cash on the game.

The only clown here is you failing to realize that and failing to make any gold.

Go back to your +5 gear spamming the games dead.

You think I made this thread because I cant make gold. I made it because 90% of the game has quit and everyone I talk to in game just complains about it and saying they going back to sea. The population is dying and its getting real obvious at this point.

Im already geared enough that I dont need to spend gold on anything and can save up but when its the same people that are playing every day and the greater population is dead its becomes a problem.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

Do you know how people farm in sea? they spam the new twisted with power. If you have $$$ then go to sea if not stay here it's way better.

[Bishoujou]

Dont worry mysterious guy, we'll farm the twisted even without our ftg (drops from chests anyway so doesnt affect it)

The thing is sure our gold has value and things are cheap compared to other servers, but this game wasn't men't for such low gold and it really shows with l enhancing. You could say its what everyone's end game is so people shouldn't be able to overnight it, but that's exactly what vets have done every cap prior. It was a complete normal thing to just +12 as soon as you get but not anymore, and if we think the idn l is costly I can't wait to see the Rudl will be. Ofc you guys will still say its price is fine and reflects the struggles to get. That does make me wonder though, why do L grades cost more every cap? It's not like its harder, hell you same guy's say its easier now so how do you justify the high cost then? Sdn was the hardest raid to clear so shouldn't that same gold cost for those L's carry to now?

Last thing on my mind is this, I really don't have a problem with gold, then I started enhancing and now its just like lol what?

[OneMysteriousGuy]

But think about it if you can obtain everything in the game so easy I would be the first to quit this game. If this was the case I'm sure a lot of people here would go download a private version of DN. This server is good and rewarding if you give your time and effort. Forget about sea unless your loaded even then you wont have fun since an old guildie of mine play in sea he buy everything with gold from genesis ring to neck and IDNL whole set but unable to find IDN HC 8 man team. Before anyone bash this statement no hes not a crappy player =)

[aaron]

Gold generation doesn't reflect gold sinks, however it's only in the case of L-grade equipment. That being said, it's hard to do L-grade raids in a timely manner without...L-grades.

People can talk all they want, about how you don't need cream of the crop gear to clear raids, whatever, but it boils down to the people who have completed the raids all over +12 RDNL equipment at least... or some mixture of insane FD stacking with L grades.

But, at this point it's whatever. I've started apple farming and I make like 80k a month spending an hour and a half a week farming. If you can't beat them, join them. Or quit. Your call.

[Milo]

I'm not exactly sure what the objections to FinalKo's pleas are. It's not difficult for ED to re-implement code that they already have (ie zeph plains abyss) to help people who grind a lot make gold at a faster rate (assuming that they don't want to take the effort to make new content with a similar goal), remove server storage fees (a feature already in kdn), and increase gold/mats dropped from nests. Those of you that already have a lot of gold will still have a lot of gold, although perhaps not comparatively to the rest of the server as you once did, but you will also have more avenues with which to obtain gold at a faster rate.

The only real complaint I can see from your perspectives (and do correct me if I'm wrong obviously) is that more people will have L-grades, an armor that's supposed to be rare and coveted, not a norm, but giving people a more efficient dungeon to grind gold will only result in those who WORK HARD to get full L-grades. Your average player will still remain average. Yes, your competition for sell runs will increase in the short term, but also keep in mind that with more access to gold, your demand for sell runs and their drops will increase as well (not everyone chooses to clear a raid on a new team in order to get the next level of gear - some are too laggy for that, others realize they don't have the skill, others only get the gear to pvp in ladder, etc.). Comparatively lower splits in sell runs in the short term, not the long term, as well as a slightly greater population of people in full L-grades, is a rather small price to pay to give people an incentive to stay and improve our economy. If gold inflation (or rather too much gold in the server) is an issue, the methods I posted above would hardly cause that to come about anytime soon, and countermeasures could be implemented if we're seriously that out of control.

tl;dr I don't fully understand what the objection to having more ways to make gold in the game are if it doesn't have a negative impact in the long run (it'll actually have a very probable positive one), although based on the views I've seen, it will have a negative impact in the short term.

[Benjix]

For those who says L-grade should takes hard work to get is pretty silly since it takes more luck than hard work. Getting the pieces are easy especially when so many people are selling runs, everyone can farm like 10k to buy enough runs for a weapon easily enough. But who want a +0 L-grade, let's say one person grinded hard and have 200k, get screwed over by RNG and can't even +12 his weapon (this is just an example so don't talk about spend smartly here plz), another person just do stuffs casually and +12 in less than 30k, so who worked harder and who got rewarded more here?
Yes this is a little bit from personal experience, can't say I'm not a little salty about RNG but the point remains, hard work doesn't equal bigger reward in this game. Back in Guardian Nest you can make almost 10k a week just by running the nest on 3 characters, and it's gold made from actual contents. Armor and Weapon set from nest was such good things to keep the economy flowing but they destroyed it after 80 cap. Now nests drop things that can be found in regular dungeons and the thing that are slightly better can't even be traded, that was just a silly move.

[TheKo]

But think about it if you can obtain everything in the game so easy I would be the first to quit this game. If this was the case I'm sure a lot of people here would go download a private version of DN. This server is good and rewarding if you give your time and effort. Forget about sea unless your loaded even then you wont have fun since an old guildie of mine play in sea he buy everything with gold from genesis ring to neck and IDNL whole set but unable to find IDN HC 8 man team. Before anyone bash this statement no hes not a crappy player =)

I dont disagree with you that if it is to easy people might also quit but, you are misunderstanding my posts because im not asking for free end game gear. Im asking for a way to farm gold that does not involve RNG like the rest of the game is right now.

Beef does not play the game but replies to everyone with "this game is dead" so his points are irrelevant and ignored.

Yep it seems the only ways people are efficiently making gold now is gold farming.

Hopefully sooner or later they implement something or gold pouches help out.

[ceruulean]

wew party rewards get 60 more gold every week

totally makes up for all the bugged golden goblins and the extraction costs of those party box contents