Thanks ED for getting rid of apple farming abuse

[aaron]

Where does it say this? In the patch notes for this month? Link pls

future content.

http://blog.divinitor.com/blog/2017/...source=discord

[nixqc]

welp if thats true.. it will be time for me to quit.. as a casual player.. I used this method to get some money.. u know Life with 2 kids doesnt let me time to endlessly farm dungeon like most of the kids playing :P

@Omnicide where did u saw that note?

[WhaleThen]

If this is true, then this is a blessing, if old seeds still work, all you have to do is hoard a bunch before we ever get this patch. And iirc we're soo far behind KR. Apple farmers gain way more than they lose from this, if they're smart about it. Thanks ED

[RubyArt]

THANK YOU ED best fix ever please give us 95 cap now

[Golden Apple] and [Apple of Life] will be changed. Seeds and harvested items acquired prior to this patch will be changed to [Old] items and will no longer be obtainable. Seed prices will be adjusted.

New Golden Apples and Apples of Life seeds can be purchased at the farm shop using dungeon and nest points. They cannot be server storaged. The selling price of these crops have been increased


Ty to ael

Yeah, lets all find players to 'fund' us 200k gold and never return the gold or hack craft 10 fd plates. Or steal genesis rings. Or get 2000 eggs gifted to us.

[Omnicide]

why so mad? is there anything wrong? are you one of those crying babies? and whats wrong on my post?
lol.. there is no reason to get mad. I did everything i wanna do even clearing IDN and out geared most of old players.
How about you? any achievements? hahaha

gotta love how apple farmers make up trash about me

[RubyArt]

LOL(of course you don't get it)...just stating the irony of a brain dead scum like you bashing apple farming and gloating over the ridding of what the whole server benefits from. But then expecting you to understand economics is futile.

[Ish]

I honestly kind of like this. For the apples we currently have, will the selling price be 100g as well? Like is it good to keeps the apples we have now until after the patch?

[RubyArt]

No, actually it states that they will be classified as [Old], so they will still have the current selling price of 31g . But a lot of farmers I know(I dont farm) will still avail of this. Just buy a shitton of the old apple seeds before the 95 cap update.

[Omnicide]

Yeah, and have the old seeds possibly be [Old] and not work great plan rekt all the apple farmers

[WhaleThen]

I honestly kind of like this. For the apples we currently have, will the selling price be 100g as well? Like is it good to keeps the apples we have now until after the patch?

I guess we have to wait to see, I'm not sure if the patch is live yet but hopefully someone will go in and test what the system is like

[Fox Says Meow~]

getting rid of apple farming hurts us. people who apple farms are generating gold, and they spend the gold buying items (aka gold flows to everyone even if u dont apple farm) and directly push up item price. it benefits YOU even if u dont apple farm.
when apple farming is gone, people have less gold to spend, and they will hesitate/refuse to buy stuffs, and ultimately causes price of everything to drop.

if ed wants to fix na's gold problem, they need to give us another way of generating gold. getting rid of apple farming doesnt fix na's gold problem at all, it makes it worse.

[Arushieru]

This^//
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[Omnicide]

Yeah I want a better way of getting gold, one that actually requires you play the game~

[jay00agent]

omnicide farming is playing the game...its farming....just cause its simple doesnt mean you are not playing or doing anything...

[WhaleThen]

getting rid of apple farming hurts us. people who apple farms are generating gold, and they spend the gold buying items (aka gold flows to everyone even if u dont apple farm) and directly push up item price. it benefits YOU even if u dont apple farm.
when apple farming is gone, people have less gold to spend, and they will hesitate/refuse to buy stuffs, and ultimately causes price of everything to drop.

if ed wants to fix na's gold problem, they need to give us another way of generating gold. getting rid of apple farming doesnt fix na's gold problem at all, it makes it worse.

They are not getting rid of apple farming they're making the seeds harder to obtain, if "old" seeds work, which they should, then apple farmers stand to gain so much from this change.

[Aisuru]

Unfortunately for you, this just made apple farmers generate more gold.

[Ragne]

To see this as a reason to celebrate and thank Eyedentity just demonstrates how far this game has fallen. The prevalence of Apple Farming is the least of this game's troubles and is something that should've been on the bottom of the list of things to repair. Dragon Nest continues to present zero challenge to anyone with the motor skill and reaction times of an infant. T5 removed any real complexity to nests and raids while transforming the game into poorly balanced and poorly thought out mess with systems that turn away new and old players. Perhaps you should thank Eyedentity when playing this game takes more than a modicum of thought to play and requires true teamwork to conquer nests and raids. Quite honestly having actual hatred for Apple Farmers is laughable and quite pathetic. Direct it to the developers who created the systems and enabled players to maximize its potential.

[Aisuru]

Pretty much this.

[BowieSage]

Yeah, I kinda have to agree with Range here (can't remember if this is the original one or someone else, but it doesn't matter. I still agree with him). T4 was starting to get to the point where damage and stat difficulty were shooting through the roof in 80 cap, but at least many of the nests/raids created during T4 (two notable personal examples being Titan Nest and Manticore Nest) had some form of difficulty and challenge outside of stats, such as certain mechanics that required you to hit certain points to stop a powerful attack, traps that forced you to pay attention to avoid being stuck in a damage zone, or, my personal favorite, Corpseboogie's Dance Floor (the minigame was a nice twist on the "defeat all enemies" objective that the other rooms had, and the music definitely set the mood for it). You know, the kinds of challenges and mechanics that weren't huge DPS checks (Mach Titan's time bomb COULD be considered a DPS check, but it wasn't that significant of one compared to later caps), and most of which required you to be aware of what's going on and not just blindly DPS'ing the boss.

Most of those mechanics and challenges are absent in T5. Now it's either DPS checks, or situational mechanics that are minor, easily-cleared annoyances at best, completely pointless abilities that make no difference at worst. While it's POSSIBLE to farm the current nests and dungeons, especially after apple farming is changed, the truth of the matter is that there's no fun at all doing it, as none of the current nests offer any real challenge outside of stats. T4 Titan, Manticore, and Archbishop Nests farming? FUN NESTS! SIGN ME UP! T5 nest farming? I'd rather get wrecked by T4 Leviatha again.

So, ultimately, removing apple farming doesn't really do anything to help the situation, since there's nothing interesting about T5 content to encourage running them more than is necessary to clear daily/weekly achievements/gear up for raids.

[Aelphaeis]

Just wanted to remove any confusion since lots of people seem to not know what the changes are.
This is the source : http://patchnote.dragonnest.com/category?patchnoteno=3
Its on the 5th category in the patch notes.

Digging deeper. The seeds we currently have will be invalidated and no longer usuable
The apples (is actually under debate, but the general conscious is but what) we currently have are going to remain the same price.

The apple change is one of many, many, many changes. Consider the other changes when commenting on the apples.

[Omnicide]

Ty ael

[jay00agent]

if they make other ways to make gold that can match apple farming then the game should be fine. its always been extremely too hard to make gold without apple farming or sell runs and not everyone can sell runs cause not everyone has a team. this is my favorite game and i hope things get better for it.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

This coming from a guy with 600 apple alt. The reason ED removing this mainly because of bots If ED give us a way to earn gold like zeph abyss I don't mind if my 600 alt become useless.

[BowieSage]

I wouldn't mind something similar to Zephyra Plains abyss farming, just so long as it's a fun dungeon to speedrun. Zeph was fun to speedrun (still is fun to speedrun with characters I'm leveling, especially when I was leveling my Arch Heretic, and the gold earned from the gold chest on Master isn't too bad when leveling up (though no Golden Goblin makes it less useful)).

[aaron]

This coming from a guy with 600 apple alt. The reason ED removing this mainly because of bots If ED give us a way to earn gold like zeph abyss I don't mind if my 600 alt become useless.

Yes, if there is an alternative, I will not mind losing my 450 apple alts.

[OneMysteriousGuy]

yah took me ages i start since 80 cap lmao all my effort down the drain.

[Vulpix]

The apple change is one of many, many, many changes. Consider the other changes when commenting on the apples.

The other changes are nice, and needed from what I read, but I didn't see much in the way of gold generation in the changes, so that still leaves the same, basic problem that was already there without the apple farming.