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I can learn so much more about it from watching than from playing; I know this because I used to play acro a lot more. A "few times" my ass, I've been spectating a lot for 3 years or longer. I can tell what your skills do more accurately than you can. You have no idea what your skills can do until you watch someone else do it better than you.Last edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 09:54 PM.
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You don't play it yet you talk about what it can and can't do, you're simply an idiot. There is a VERY large difference between spectating it a few times and putting hundreds of fights into a class to learn what it's positives and negatives are. I could spectate a Ruina destroying every class that walks into its room, that doesn't make Ruina counter every class, simply the person playing it, good and they know how to use their class. But as you stated, you don't really play acro so you can't be blamed for making such a simple mistake.Last edited by Kurabawara; 11-15-2016, 10:51 PM.
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Something that has a pretty decent aoe, short cast time but pretty long effect, pretty good SA and SA break...should absolutely not be missed. That's like saying landing awakened furious winds is hard...except that doesn't do 40k even if it gets all hits and doesn't have the same SA or effect.
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Spectating is unbiased. Therefore, unlike you, I'm not full of myself and defending my own class for personal reasons. Thanks for playing.
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Originally posted by Cait View Post
You must be stuck in 60 cap if you think mercs are weak. Believe me: I'm not afraid to make a class and try it. That's why I have 14 of them right now, all lvl 90+
I hardly play acro; this comes from pure, unbiased spectating. This all started with a salty barb who thought he was badass when he won 3-2, using his bl/50/everything, against a WW, and that WW never dropped a combo. Idgaf what y'all salty ass mercs on here say, the WW deserved to win, and the WW wasn't me.
wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.
You're right btw, damage is not the only thing that makes a class strong but it helps to have aoe, SA, and SA break on basically everything too.
I'm not even whining about acro or saying that it's weak like y'all are crying about merc lmfao. I actually said acro is pretty good against pretty much anything.
2)Originally posted by Cait View PostI hardly play acro
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you dont need to test it accurately, everybody already knows its NOT accurate. any further testing is just to get specifics or prove to yourself the situation which is a tad disrespectful to everybody so far who has said the same thing i have tbh.
Straight up, my level 11 zap on a guardian lands about 2.5k + 240x4 ticks so like.... roughly 4000+2500 = 6500 dmg... (eh.. 5500?) Way higher than the 1200 my dmg sheet shows. and it doesn't display the initial hit properly, or even what the smaller ones add up to, more or less the combined total of all 4 times. It's a very confusing result and to me screams its completely not reliable.
Look. i'm just trying to point out what you did wrong here more than anything else. It has nothing to do with facts. It was just not accepting what a community veteran said who is a pretty reliable dude yo. That's gonna get your ass toasted around here. Knowing who to question or who to simply take their answer as fact will go a long wayLast edited by ZepIic; 11-15-2016, 01:45 AM.
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Originally posted by Cait View Post
wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.
Just my two cents. Because personally, I love jumping and walking into them to make the match more interesting.... yeah. That.
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Originally posted by Kurabawara View Post
You've got a major issue of pretending your class is weak. Maybe you should play a merc against a fatcrobat and see how "easy" it is for you to counter them. If you think a merc counters an acro then you're just bad at acrobat and should improve! Simple as that.
Oh and the damage a class does doesn't make it OP. There is no point in having a skill that hits 40k if it's not going to land or that will be countered in an instant, It's the same issue with reaper vs merc. It doesn't matter how little their damage might be on some skills, if they can keep on countering and picking up a combo then the damage will add up and they'll have the advantage.
I hardly play acro; this comes from pure, unbiased spectating. This all started with a salty barb who thought he was badass when he won 3-2, using his bl/50/everything, against a WW, and that WW never dropped a combo. Idgaf what y'all salty ass mercs on here say, the WW deserved to win, and the WW wasn't me.
wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.
You're right btw, damage is not the only thing that makes a class strong but it helps to have aoe, SA, and SA break on basically everything too.
I'm not even whining about acro or saying that it's weak like y'all are crying about merc lmfao. I actually said acro is pretty good against pretty much anything.Last edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 01:44 AM.
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Originally posted by Cait View PostYou're right man. I didn't manipulate shet; I used the combo merc, and I didn't realize he was so inaccurate. Idk about mercs, but I saw 2k per hit on match vs a pally. Even if it hits twice that on a glad, that's 4k x 4 hits which is 16k. I'm pretty sure that 50k is a huge exaggeration, especially for a glad, and I'd be happy to prove it to anyone who wants to let me test.
Oh and the damage a class does doesn't make it OP. There is no point in having a skill that hits 40k if it's not going to land or that will be countered in an instant, It's the same issue with reaper vs merc. It doesn't matter how little their damage might be on some skills, if they can keep on countering and picking up a combo then the damage will add up and they'll have the advantage.Last edited by Kurabawara; 11-15-2016, 12:59 AM.
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You're right man. I didn't manipulate shet; I used the combo merc, and I didn't realize he was so inaccurate. Idk about mercs, but I saw 2k per hit on match vs a pally. Even if it hits twice that on a glad, that's 4k x 4 hits which is 16k. I'm pretty sure that 50k is a huge exaggeration, especially for a glad, and I'd be happy to prove it to anyone who wants to let me test. I'm sorry but I definitely do not have the patience to wait around for someone to join a "test" room. Can't really screenshot in a 1v1 and without a screenshot, you would accuse me of "manipulating" it.2 PhotosLast edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 12:55 AM.
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