Petition ( Lower L Grade Enhance Cost To Match Our Economy )

[Rinkie]

Easy answer, don't craft L grades. Go epic and get some +14's, hell get a +15 and waste less gold. I did forget there is U grade hammers, so go for those.

[PoundingsEgo]

they should remove Jellies from enhancing but still leave the chance to break.

would make the game super hardcore. so many people here are getting free rides thanks to jellies.

[Ragne]

You guys should actually play the game instead of posting on the forums, I can guarantee you with the amount of effort you put in these posts you could have made a few thousands by now.

This is quite amusing considering all the tirades you went on about T5 on Nexon's forums. Yet you still continue to play the game.

[Cessius]

What they should do is make gearing not take 5 months, seriously what is with Nightmare/Coma evo shards.....

[Gladiator]

What they should do is make gearing not take 5 months, seriously what is with Nightmare/Coma evo shards.....

It is actually quite fast with IDN.....

[Naka]

I don't play that much anymore but honestly I think there should just be a tiny ass tweak to the enhance cost. (aka lower it by like. 2%?)

There's absolutely no need to inject gold because that just causes a problem for new players. Additionally, lgrades aren't supposed to be the easiest thing to enhance: I understand the frustration that y'all have from wasting a bunch of gold but hey DN isn't supposed to be a super fair game anyway they just want our money !!

tl;dr yes but don't tank the costs if ur going 2 be super salty go for epics or uniques

[iCerulean]

Naka for prez

[BowieSage]

Naka's right. If you REALLY want L-grades, then start with a decent Epic set so that you can stop paying for carries and actually contribute to raids, and go from there.

[spacem]

I think many teams are taking a while to clear Idn hc anyway so we got time to save up. Don't get weapon after first clear either. If it were cheaper to get there would be complaining about the +13 struggles.

[Goodwill]

I think the problem is less about enhancing and L-Grades, but the entirety of the game in general. I don't think anyone would be complaining if there was other things you could do in DN.

[CraZyZeuS]

Wait till you guys have to enhance IDN L and each piece is the same price as the main hand

[DatBoi]

lemme hit u wit sum real talk. my mama always said "datboi save 5 gold here and 5 gold there n u end up with 5 hunnid k one day"

took her advice and now i got dem op af L-grades +13 and +14.

lesson is fam. ya'll gon get dem l-grades ez boiz. save sum cash gettin stacks.

[iCerulean]

Better hope they'll have more enhancement events.

[aaron]

Wait till you guys have to enhance IDN L and each piece is the same price as the main hand

Uh...

The raw amount of gold it takes... It's like making China wages while living in San Francisco at this point lol.

[CraZyZeuS]

Since this thread seems to be so popular, I am going to provide my input as well.

I'm not going to go into too much detail, but I will say this - Dragon Nest was designed for a healthier economy.

Let's not even discuss about L-Grades because that itself is an issue for the average population, especially when each piece of IDN L is the same cost as a main hand.

Aside from L-Grades, we have guild buffs which consume a lot amount of gold each month or week depending on buff. It doesn't help that leveling up alternative accounts no longer provide keys. This itself is removal of gold injection in our economy.

Guild gem is another example. The high fail rate/break rate is designed for multiple tries. However, it consumes so much gold that most of the population don't dare to even attempt for +10 unlike other servers.

Crafting RDN L weapons cost 430 gold, but IDN L weapons cost 2010 gold to craft.

Everything has continually increased in price. Think about the next L-Grades at 93 Cap which will probably cost even more.

I personally think that a richer economy would encourage more players to play the game. If average players were able to afford L-Grades as well, then there would be more incentive for them to play the game. They won't feel left out or separated from veterans of the game. It will be easier for them to find teams and complete content. I understand many veterans don't like this concept because they don't feel that average players of causal players should have the same gear as themselves. However, they won't because standards will increase with more gold in the economy. +13's or even +14's will be the new standard of gearing for competitive players.

As many people have stated in the past few pages of this thread, you can work as hard as you can but RNG can screw you over. With more gold, this wouldn't be so much of an issue.

Also, for those who are saying it's easy to make gold because you farm on 100-400 alts for apples - not everyone has that sort of time. The average player base either goes to school or work. If you have time to farm all day, then that's great for you. However, I am almost confident that you wouldn't be able to maintain this life style for very long. You will burn yourself out or you will start selling NX and lie to me about you farming on 400 alts.

I think that's all I'm going to say for now. I'm providing a very unbiased view because I don't need the extra gold for L-Grades. However, I do realize that the general population is not happy because they are not always rewarded for their work they put in the game. If you want this game to do well, then think about the general population and not how much gold you can make yourself. That's one of the reasons why Dragon Nest started dying - New/average players can't make gold and only veterans who sold RDN HC/apple farmers could.

[Taco]

Zeus saving dn all over again <3

[miki]

sir ur post is very nice ty sir we need a gud economy for all our sirs

[ILLbeURdeath]

Truly unbiased +1, lot of truth in that post

[Escorted]

I think the problem lies more so in what items drop that we can sell/buy or otherwise help our economy.

[Xzine]

Since this thread seems to be so popular, I am going to provide my input as well.

I'm not going to go into too much detail, but I will say this - Dragon Nest was designed for a healthier economy.

Let's not even discuss about L-Grades because that itself is an issue for the average population, especially when each piece of IDN L is the same cost as a main hand.

Aside from L-Grades, we have guild buffs which consume a lot amount of gold each month or week depending on buff. It doesn't help that leveling up alternative accounts no longer provide keys. This itself is removal of gold injection in our economy.

Guild gem is another example. The high fail rate/break rate is designed for multiple tries. However, it consumes so much gold that most of the population don't dare to even attempt for +10 unlike other servers.

Crafting RDN L weapons cost 430 gold, but IDN L weapons cost 2010 gold to craft.

Everything has continually increased in price. Think about the next L-Grades at 93 Cap which will probably cost even more.

I personally think that a richer economy would encourage more players to play the game. If average players were able to afford L-Grades as well, then there would be more incentive for them to play the game. They won't feel left out or separated from veterans of the game. It will be easier for them to find teams and complete content. I understand many veterans don't like this concept because they don't feel that average players of causal players should have the same gear as themselves. However, they won't because standards will increase with more gold in the economy. +13's or even +14's will be the new standard of gearing for competitive players.

As many people have stated in the past few pages of this thread, you can work as hard as you can but RNG can screw you over. With more gold, this wouldn't be so much of an issue.

Also, for those who are saying it's easy to make gold because you farm on 100-400 alts for apples - not everyone has that sort of time. The average player base either goes to school or work. If you have time to farm all day, then that's great for you. However, I am almost confident that you wouldn't be able to maintain this life style for very long. You will burn yourself out or you will start selling NX and lie to me about you farming on 400 alts.

I think that's all I'm going to say for now. I'm providing a very unbiased view because I don't need the extra gold for L-Grades. However, I do realize that the general population is not happy because they are not always rewarded for their work they put in the game. If you want this game to do well, then think about the general population and not how much gold you can make yourself. That's one of the reasons why Dragon Nest started dying - New/average players can't make gold and only veterans who sold RDN HC/apple farmers could.

+1



I gave up grinding the same dungeon over and over again a long time ago. Those who can do this have my respect. To each his/her own, but where is the fun in that and or farming on several hundred alt? Open beta through now and I still continue to only play this game for nests and raids. Hell, I quit running norm nests because ED removed aura drops from them. WHY!? Why should I even consider running now so I can waste time repairing and getting an obsolete cauda accessory? IDN, TKN, Daid HC, DDN HC, HBF and Starlight, that's all the relevant "end" content that is worth running and yet it doesn't yield shet in terms of gold. Smh.

With that said, whatever I gain from running actual content each week on multiple toons is what I yield and that's it and I have to be fine with that. Work and family come first. I fall into the sub category of sub hardcore competitive player who doesn't run L grades. Although I'm going after IDNL or so I hope too.

Escorted hit the nail on the head too. This has been an issue since we went to limited mats and same armor sets outside of L's at the start of T5. On one hand I'd like to see multiple mats come back so we can all make gold and have a thriving MP, put use to regular dungeons more, but on the other hand it is NICE for the old folks like myself who can't grind for this stuff every week who want to gear and become competitive in a shorter amount of time.

Forget the manufactured gold injection IMHO. How about changing some of the following and I think things would/should improve in the long run:

- Remove the fee per item for general storage
- Remove the cost to swap out gems
- Remove the cost to swap around talis
- Remove cost to adjust plates
- Remove/drastically lower the repair fees for dailies
- Remove fee to trade gold
- Lower cost to list items in MP
- Allow some shop items to be sold in MP
- Put guaranteed shard drops in the chests for HC content only
- Increase the gold that drops from nests/raids


Imagine the gold saved per toon per week if 1/3 of that list was adjusted.


Have a good weekend everyone