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  • Omnicide
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    +1 make it tradeable and possibly in eggs forever like weapon coupons, but more so tradeable because that would help alot.
    such as if a player got the set, then got the extra pieces from the conversion costume after that... they can now sell the extra threads they got

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  • Omnicide
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    first of all lowering the prices of IDNL means nothing
    apple farming is still a thing and shouldnt be the main source of gold, it needs to be made unviable.
    conversion should be in eggs forever and put into market

  • Zal919
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    Exactly right RubyArt. A World of Warcraft subscription is $15 a month and the game is run so much better + the playerbase isn't two pages of active parties during peak hours. Content, playerbase, community, and communication with devs in WoW >>> DN...and it cost less to play it

  • Tara
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    Absolutely, what Zeus says. It seems a very amateur set of people with no objectives or experience, have been allowed to manage NA.
    Last edited by Tara; 04-26-2017, 01:44 PM.

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  • CraZyZeuS
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    I agree with what RubyArt stated. Making conversion costumes tradeable won't really change anything because of how rare the item is. Most people won't be listing the item in the market place. People open the egg solely for purposes of obtaining the item as it is in a separate egg.

    I don't think it really matters at this point anymore. A lot of players who have quit already either extracted their gear for gold or have sold off their genesis accessories they worked hard for. They aren't returning even if changes are made. When you give players an opportunity to leave and see how much better other games are handled, they have no intention of returning.

    Anyways, NA is just a pile of mess right now. I feel like there is no sense of direction and leadership by the management team. Forums are getting worse as threads don't even get bumped anymore. I don't know how threads/users who are harassing other players with their personal photos are allowed to continue posting. In game pop-ups are pictures obtained via google images - this is very unprofessional.

    I feel like this should all be common sense and that the community shouldn't need to report/inform the GMs/management team about this. Don't you agree?
    Last edited by CraZyZeuS; 04-26-2017, 08:04 AM.

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  • RubyArt
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    30$ for a game with such limited content is A LOT actually. Holy cow, I just realised WTH am i doing to pay 30$ per month to DN. I am a student and for 30$ i get nothing. (150 eggs worth of potions) . When other games are a lot less for subscription.

  • RubyArt
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    Originally posted by Lemon View Post


    and conversion costumes being tradeable in the market won't do anything unless they're put in regular eggs permanently
    This, honestly. Making conversion costumes tradeable wont help. They are first of all so rare that even the whales have trouble getting them. And I doubt any of them would care to sell theirs for gold. Making the threads tradeable wouldn't help also, again, because of the extremely low chance of getting them. I think Eyedentity just saw a way to make a shitton of money with the costumes and they thought their playerbase so dedicated that they wouldn't mind shelling out thousands more just to get those costumes, again.

    But from their perspective: If people are spending money buying gold to enhance their L's or get their genesis accessories, why not make them spend that in shop? Unfortunately they made it a gamble. Unless someone has a mental disorder, they don't usually like gambling on a regular basis, eyedentity. Its a turn off for new players. People love spending cash for things they can actually get for sure.

    If anything, making WTD tradeable would help. Having events by which people can complete their sets would help. Making enhancing a little easier would help.
    I don't know ANY game that punishes so much with RNG. You grind mats or buy them at ridiculous prices, you buy jellies in the cash shop, AND forget leveling , the item actually drops two levels?!

    This is the reason newer people don't stick with the game. The game is just hard to grind with mediocre content. Trying to grind to get to the point of clearing Gran HC is not worth the shitty content honestly. And there are better designed mmo's that one can pick from and actually have fun with. Older players, well, everyone's talked about it. What are the reasons they liked the game? Do you clearly know, Eyedentity?

    As for your GMS: Look at the last event : it was a joke. An event should involve playing, a community coming together. Not log in at a certain time to get a question and then go on the forum to write up an answer. Everyone just copy pasted the answer above theirs. What does the forum have to do with actually playing the game????? Shouldn't an event involve doing something in game with other players or maybe even solo? Does it take a rocket scientist to figure that out? Atleast Nexon did a good job in this department.

    I for one find the management of this game astonishing. Why not hire better people more experienced qualified people to lead your teams? People with proven track records of making a mmorpg successful?

    Have well designed events implemented across all of your servers. Well designed content across all the servers.
    Last edited by RubyArt; 04-26-2017, 07:13 AM.

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  • Lemon
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    I don't understand why people want a direct give me free gold event so much compared to just lowering the cost of the only thing that actually causes significant deflation.

    Also why is it bad that spenders get the gold that causes general inflation anyways because they end up giving the gold to me when they blow it on idn carries?


    and conversion costumes being tradeable in the market won't do anything unless they're put in regular eggs permanently
    Last edited by Lemon; 04-26-2017, 06:42 AM.

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  • Asal
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    +1, totally ;p.

    Edit: I don't think it's too late to save this server but I think ED needs to listen to what you guys and others are saying; I think they are good suggestions. Would be a shame to see NA go down.
    Last edited by Asal; 04-26-2017, 06:20 AM.

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  • TheSomnangMao
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    didn't take CoupLord very long to figure all this out EyeDentity.

    let's see..

    5 Days of being active on the forums while helping as many people as possible like new players with tech issues, in-game queries and forwarding solutions to certain problems.

    not only that he has provided vast amounts of in-game knowledge that is very lacking in these forums due to a lot of peoples either greed of sustaining their 'im above you' status or just pure lack of interest in doing so.

    from my eyes. what Couplord has done is just one side of an issue.
    and the things i've seen him post and do here as well as his interactions across the entire forums is MUCH more useful than what your current [GM]s have to offer us.

    [GM] Ignacio <--- everyone on the server and discord thinks this guy is a joke. a clown/fool if you were to humanize him. either say or he is a bot/statue that stands in front of terminus gateway begging for pictures.

    Dean50 and Dragon Nest NA EyeDentity 'team' have stated that they have already taken in CrazyZeus's post/thread to heart and are working on solutions.

    how many posts and months has it been and yet this one user that was created 5 days ago already has the situation of just like ... 1/20th of the things that this game needs (i do not believe it's just this server from what i hear directly from players themselves from different servers) but also this server too.

    a lot of the people call for a revamp. this 90cap project. has flopped.

    it's about time EyeDentity admit it. not all of it should be taken as worthless though in fact a lot of good and new things that have brighten up the game came with the 90cap + project.

    however with 1 good came 5 bads.

    the fact that this Game Company does not take into consideration a vast amount of the community feedback is what has made people do the same.
    neglect the customers and they will neglect you in return.

    some of us are staying mainly because we like the taste of the cheese burger a bit more than others, but to any other consumer.. it's just a burger you see anywhere else.
    to them there's nothing special about it and they they not understand what's so good about it.

    you can't blame those people for having thought like that and that's because neither do a lot of us anymore.

    i remember Dean50 responded to a post about the growth and uprise of a game called warframe and how those game developers made a come back just simply from going of it's users. obviously not as simple and one sided as it sounds. a lot of wise choices had to be made however a huge difference it makes to have the communities input be factored into the said choices. EyeDentity don't even read and cannot comprehend what they are doing to their playerbase.

    at this point. people are in belief regardless of what you guys 'try to hype and leak' information about that Eyedentity is just killing the game and not putting back into it simply because are done with it.

    actions speak louder than words here.
    change your development directives at once Eyedentity because clearly some people behind you namely us. the player base cannot walk the same path as you and if that was the intent. so be it.

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    remember how World of warcraft and other games (xbox netplay)had subscriptions that turned off a lot of gamers? but the thing is those subscription based games were well off bc of the income they got.

    what in the world is going on with Dragon Nest over these last 7 months??? Vip package is a monthly subscription hands down 100% it is. that's $30 aprrox every month and a lot of people have it on more than one character. well more than you think and then the spending 'events' ? are they even events... or donations for the developers pocket change.

    not everyone is this stupid to stick and actually invest into a hobby which reaps no returns. opinion based obviously, but yup... i think the player count and the actual context of what's mostly said on forums can tell you a something about what people think of you in general.

    wonder when this company make the hard choice rather than let the ship sink slowly giving all of us that false senseless hope we crave.

    :-/
    Last edited by TheSomnangMao; 04-26-2017, 05:33 AM.

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  • Way too many people are quitting Please do something about it!

    Please hurry up and implement some suggested fixes so this server doesn't turn into a ghost town.
    Edit: I have now sorted this in order of most pressing issues at the top, and done alot of changes now that I managed to get onto a computer. I was using my phone earlier, was not fun.

    -Make conversion costume able to be listed in marketplace / Keep It In Free Eggs.


    This is honestly the main problem, such a strong costume can't be traded basically killing any free player's hopes at being as strong, not to mention EU allows the listing of this item, why is this server any different? This is what most people who have quit said led them to quit, please let us trade the thread if not the costume piece itself 1 time in the Marketplace to resolve this, some players feel as if it would be better to restart on a new server since this one seems to keep getting the short end of the stick.
    Also, consider lowering the event tiers, doing something like a 400$ = 1 Piece or Buy one Get one free Will not do much to help players afford this.
    Another great idea, would be to move this into normal eggs, and keeping it in there like the Epic Synthesis Weapon Coupon: Leaving this item in the game and thus not time limited, could help players save up to obtain it, ... at least extend the time it's in (Hopefully Normal )eggs until a certain time after summer vacation starts, where logically you will be at the most busy due to the increase in gamers getting out of school and going on break to play.


    EC / Cash Shop Item Trading:


    I have looked into the reason this server doesn't have this ability, and I have found out that it was denied due to the possibility that the server's economy could get messed up.... But in all honesty making the system the same as Dragon Nest SEA would benefit the server and the happiness of the population entirely, this is good for you too as happy players makes it more likely for them to spend money, thus more income for you. I do not think that the server's economy could get worse than it already has... It would only really help this server, because players already sell EC via discord to other players. Players already buy tons of Jellies or synthesize costumes to get gold, implementing this would only help players get the items they need. If you think that the mass inflow of Cash items being listed would crash the market, perhaps allow a limitation such as only sell one cash item from a set per account per week on the marketplace.
    It would be better to work to find a solution rather than reject the entire possibility all together.


    -We need a free player Gold generation Event:


    This server is obviously the poorest, it is hard for new players to gear due to the poor economy, you gave us a gold egg event but required spending money, sure this will cause an indirect gold inflation, but all the players who could not spend 60 dollars for the event at minimum will be left behind, We need some sort of event that can put a good amount of gold into the server, and one that everyone can manage to do!


    Some Suggestions For the gold generation event!

    -300% Drop rate for a week straight if not longer.
    -Gold Egg event
    -Magnify Glass event from SEA
    -For 30 minutes Gold goblins spawn in every abyss dungeon at 100% Rate at a chosen time.
    -Increasing the amount of raw gold dropped in each dungeon to 20 gold per run with FTG.

    Anything that helps would be great honestly, this is just some ideas I came up with that could somewhat help...



    Originally posted by Community Focus 4/20 View Post
    The focus for this week is a post from a veteran guardian who goes by the name of CraZyZeus. He has given us alot of advice and suggestions to our team via forum.

    Each and every suggestion is being discussed not only for NA but for the entirety of the DN live service area.

    http://us.dragonnest.com/news/dev-blog/6 ( For the original post because I made this easier to understand~ )
    I understand that you are discussing it, but it would mean alot to me and the other players if you could possibly provide a temporary solution during the patch tomorrow, and let us know how the discussion meeting goes!

    Dragon Nest is a very fun game, and I would hate to see it die due to some poor choices... Once people sell off their gear and quit they likely won't come back, which is why i can't stress enough that the best resolution for this would be to put in a Gold Generation Event for Free players, and Conversion costume /EC Items needs to be listed in marketplace, or we need to at least have word if it will be able to be traded in the near future ( hopefully next patch ) . this alone could stop many players from quitting!

    There are also more problems such as the Wise gem being 3.2% Intellect for far too long, Increased Ice Dragon Difficulty... Lack of Light / Fusion cube events, and the Ice Dragon Legendary Equipment having lower stats on this server, but I wanted to address the greatest problems.

    Thanks for reading my opinions!!

    @Dean50
    @Visage
    @[GM] DENTITY
    @[GM] SMILE @Yaya
    Last edited by Couplord; 04-26-2017, 11:04 AM.
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