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Not sure if they are underrated, unknown, or not, but shoutout to paths (principle), MalachiX, and MemoryCore for being decent 1v1 Saints.
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Wow no one going to mention me? Im literally destroying everyone lol. I have lost only once.
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Blooming kick, ssd, and eagle dive have to be in range, which if I'm honest, is pretty fu cking terrible on all of them for a temp. But blooming kick has a very low cd so you have several chances. Most temps barely even use eagle dive though. It's way too predictable, we dont fly around as easily, and the range on ours is pretty bad. My whole argument though isn't that acros CAN'T counter mercs, but that it takes a lot of skill to do it. Same with dancers since they lack the utility but somewhat make up for it in damage. Usually when I would say a class directly counters another class, I mean they faceroll ftw in this matchup.
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If you're including me, I commented here to compliment people. It's not my fault that someone else had already derailed. I didn't have to reply, but it defeats the whole purpose of complimenting someone if others can just tear them down right after. That comment should've been deleted pretty quickly, but it wasn't, so I defended someone because the whole purpose of this thread is to build people up.
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Cait wtf r u talking about this cap u mean 93 RIGHT???? THEN HOW TF DO U LOST TO A MERC ON ACRO U CAN LITERALLY TOY WITH THEM ALL GAME
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R u high?
Acros counter mercs that's 1
2 LOL temps r ez asf same for ww power evades etc not gonna go into detail too much work
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Rivisi wao hold ur horses AW and Raven ARE NOT ez at all, have u even played them AW has 0 SA literally 0 u can catch him off of basically any skill even LoD Raven is locked with mosts its skills and takes a REALLY long time to kill with almost no dmg and consistant not 8ks but 2ks try winning with that before u speak about sins. THE ONLY OP SIN IS REAPER
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All of you guys need to redetermine what this thread is for. go make a separate warrior v acro thread.
I wanna see who the next up and coming players are. who the community thinks are the rising stars.
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everybodys entitled to their opinion. but.
Crusaders do 0 damage. Guardians do over DOUBLE damage of a crusader. Why the hell would you advise a new player to play a class they wouldn't get a win on even after trying for 1000 games. Baseless assumptions without ever playing the class yourself. The hell m8
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Originally posted by iPokeHard View Postthe only people that honestly think merc counters acro are probably the same trashcans that think mercs counter kalis too.
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also i didnt read the whole acro vs merc argument, but from what i can gather i think grouping barb and destroyer in the same category is a little misguided this cap.
from what i have played against and seen barb is on the weaker side now that they cannot circle swing ins abuse.
destroyer on the other hand is op :/ im not even really sure how they can deny that
and yeah i would agree that acro can counter most classes if we were on perfect servers, its pretty well known that acro and alot of times swordmaster for that matter are subject to continual skill fails/bugs and iframe cancels.
lastly i could really care less if people think im garbage or not. im still gunna use HD 5 times in a row and use the photo pose gesture after. that is all.Last edited by Absol; 11-20-2016, 02:56 PM.
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Throwing in my two cents, Gladiators are not highly respected at all. In fact, the entire SM tree at the current moment is a laughingstock IIRC because glad awaks make them less mobile more SA tanky (which is the opposite of what prior-caps wanted) and ML awaks just make the class a braindead scream simulator.
If you want to play the most "ok" warrior class, try Barbarian. People complain about the whirl, but really that's all. They're a high damage, high risk class because if they fuck up once and lose their AE its pretty much over. Tons of HP goes by in a flash when you sandbag for 20 seconds. Other warrior classes people consider "ez mode" though for me personally ez mode only extends to Awakened ML and unawakened glad since side dodge is piss difficult to control.
Reaper is incredibly good with a completely broken amount of evades, utility, super armor break and mobility. Some people will straight up refuse to fight you (they have their reason, mind you, it's nothing personal). Low damage with low cooldowns infinite utility. Like, actually infinite. Your jumping default attack bounces, it's hilarious. To put that into perspective, glad is moderate damage with low cooldowns and good utility.
Honestly if you want up in your face doing combos and damage, sader might be more your speed. They're a pretty close ranged class, and with great approaches like Shin Breaker and Armor Break, and the absurd smite EX, you'd be hard pressed to fight from distances other than right in their face. Topped with close range though they also have the option to take them out from medium-ish range with relic and the crazy spinny hammer that swooshy swooshes all over the place.
Guardian if you're really trying to prove something. Guardians are a solid class but by god do they not do that great damage unless they REALLY know what they're doing. Guardi atm is like Sader but harder in PvP. These are just my personal opinions, though.
At the end of the day play however the hell you want, as long as you're nice enough in game it'll just fall into place.
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Oh, I was more presenting that as an option rather than a suggestion. Personally, I find it easier to break WW, rather than trying to avoid it.
But yea... I was just sorta saying that it's not some god skill that immediately wins all games and that EVERY class has some way to either break it or avoid it.
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