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  • ~ SachiMizora's Pyromancer Guide ~

    Current Cap: 93 Build Simulator here.


























    For the bigger picture click here ... if its not big enough already ??(PvE Build)
    For the bigger picture click here ... if its not big enough already ??(PvP Build)





    Gearing guide: (In progress of making, will be updated as much as I can) Gear simulator link here.
    Recommended items will be in bold if there's more than 1 option.

    Accessories:
    - RDN L Neck / RDN L Rings x2 / Wise Lv93 earring, IDN L earring, Technique Hot rod earring(Fire%) or Technique Hot rod earring(INT)
    - Genesis Neck / Genesis Rings x2 / Wise Lv93 earring, IDN L earring, Technique Hot rod earring(Fire%) or Technique Hot rod earring(INT)
    - Wise Lv93 Neck / IDN U magic rings x2 / Wise Lv93 earring, IDN L earring, Technique Hot rod earring(Fire%) or Technique Hot rod earring(INT)
    - IDN L Neck / IDN L balanced rings x2 / IDN L earring, Wise Lv93 earring, Technique Hot rod earring(Fire%) or Technique Hot rod earring(INT)
    - Genesis Neck / Genesis Ring / IDN L ring / IDN L earring, Technique Hot rod earring(Fire%) or Technique Hot rod earring(INT)
    -
    Unique INT tech Neck (Fireball/Ignite) or Lv93 Epic INT tech (Firewall) or Genesis Neck / Unique INT tech earring (hot rod) / balanced IDN rings x2 or Genesis Rings (This setup is the setup you should aim for/Use lv93 Firewall TECH if you use tech crest and weapon tech for fireball)
    -

    Note: I have not added 93 Technique accessories as I will be waiting to see 93 L grade accessories first etc. and items are subject to change.


    Armor + Weapons:
    - 7 Set IDN L (Expensive, but worth it)
    - 5 ANY Theano Armor + 2 Ultimate Theano Weapon/Evolution Coma/Evolution Nightmare weapon (Casual)
    - 3 RDN L [x2 Weapon + Shirt] + 2 Cor-nura + Ultimate theano (Best for FD and Stat gain)
    - Ultimate Theano 7 set [5 armor + 2 weapons] (For FD.. its gonna be rare)
    - 5 Piece 3rd stat Intellect IDN Unique armor + x2 Ultimate weapon (Casual)
    - 7 set 3rd Stat intellect IDN Unique armor + 3rd Stat FD IDN unique weapons (Casual, not worth investment in the long run though)
    -


    Gems:
    - Wise with critical for armor/neck/earring (Use if you have enough health but not enough Crit)
    - Wise with vit for armor/neck/earring(Use if you do not have enough health/for raiding practice)
    - Fire gems for weapons/rings
    - Lv80 L grade fire gems for RDN/L grade rings
    - Lv90 L grade fire gems for IDN L Rings + IDN L Weapons

    Note: go ahead and use both wise crit/vit gems if you need a balance of both until you get better gear.

    Enhancement Crests:
    Need: (I would recommend getting INT or FD 3rd stats, depends on your budget)
    - Superb Health
    - Superb Life
    - Superb Mystical
    - Superb Wise
    - Superb Offensive
    - Superb Ultimate
    - Superb/Quality Focus

    Optional/If you have crest expansion:
    - Superb/Quality Limit (Would only get if crit is high enough, if not get fierce) [Prioritize as 8th crest slot if you do not have crest expansion]
    - Superb Fierce (Would only get if crit is low, IDN L gear will help you max crit later on, you can get this for now to get crit) [Prioritize as 8th crest slot if you do not have crest expansion]
    - Superb Windsept (Would only get if 3rd stat, otherwise you can get sturdy/adorned 3rd stat)
    - Superb Sturdy/Adorned 3rd stat (Would recommend if you have expansion as this will help increase your defense/survivability while increasing your damage with 3rd stat) [Prioritize Sturdy if you had to pick 1 as we mages naturally have higher magic defense]
    - Another skill crest as a placeholder until you get 3rd stats. (Superb Magma ball - Damage)

    Unique Crests:
    Priority:

    - Chaos Fellowship (Preferably mdmg with INT or FD) [Get this at daredevil faire shop NPC)
    - Striking (Preferably 3RD INT) [Get this in IDN Normal/HC 8 mans]
    - Offensive (Preferably high mdmg with 3RD INT) [Get this from mercenary missions]
    - Increasing (Preferably high INT or decent INT with 3rd mdmg) [Get this from mercenary missions]

    If you still have these hold onto 'em until you get better ones:
    - Source 3rd INT
    - Resistant 3rd INT

    Note: Right now I'm still using my 3rd INT source over getting a clean striking because the source I have gives INT (which is much more important than the raw damage from striking and I have almost maxed out crit/pretty much maxed for the cap with high crit damage). Of course, if I find a striking with 3rd INT, I will definitely replace my source.



    Talismans: (I totally did not use my tablet for the sole purpose of drawing those red lines)



    - If you need more crit, feel free to switch adorned and windswept around.
    - If you don't need crit at all, leave windswept and fierce on the last slots and move your other talismans around to accommodate.
    - Fire talisman is not perm and you may put mystical there if your talisman is out.
    - Ultimate talisman is expensive and rare so you may put mystical there instead.
    - If you're good on crit feel free to put Health or Sturdy depending which you need more in the Fierce slot. (This highly depends on whether you're using fierce plate or IDN L grades since IDN L grades pretty much gives lots of agi for crit.. may even max out crit with just IDN L grades)
    - Trash slot I choose brutal because strength gives a bit of crit damage.. might as well use something to put there that we can make use of. But this slot is pretty much for anything you want (whether it be a brutal or another talisman with 3rd stat or w.e)



    Rotations:
    General DPS Rotation:
    1.Inferno // 2.flame spark // 3.Fireball instant // 4.Phoenix Strike // 5.Fireball Instant // 6.Firewall/Ignite for Fever // 7.Flame burst // 8.Flame burst again // 9.Hot Rod

    Another DPS rotation that would be perfect if RNG gods love you: 1.Inferno // 2.flame spark // 3.Fireball instant // 4.Phoenix Strike // 5.Fireball Instant // 6.Firewall for fever // 7. Summon Meteor x2 // 8.Ignite for fever // 8.5 If you have time you can apply a burn // 9.Flame burst x2 // 10. Hot rod

    This rotation can be used the other way too, flame bursting + hot rod first before meteor etc. etc.
    These are just general rotations, go ahead and change it up!


    Extra Notes/Info:
    Build/Skills

    - In my opinion sorceress tree does not matter as much.. as long as you have pushing skills on your skill bar for pushing mechanics. If you are not confident with just wheeling staff and fire burst, go ahead and get shock wave.
    - Phoenix Strike and Inferno are debuffs, Phoenix Strike(All Attributes lowered) Inferno(fire resist lowered). Both debuffs last 10 seconds.
    - Preferably use fireball EX right click if you can get all 3 hits in as it does more damage than left click.
    - ??


    Gear
    - Utilize +1 Costume Weapon skill and +1 Skill Up crest for Lv21 Fireball (Max Level for fireball). Technique + Skill Up works too but you should use weapon costume instead of technique as other accessories may have better stats. THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR TECHNIQUE + WEAPON COSTUME.
    - Burning hand crest trigger chance 30% adds up to 50% trigger chance overall with burning hand skill. This is why you crest trigger chance over damage.
    - Fire% is basically Final Damage for you but bosses have fire resist, there's no such thing as Final Damage resist which makes FD superior. But! Its best to build both fire% and FD if you can. Fire% Will be cheaper than FD and you should still build it to the most you can.
    - INT/CRIT/FD/FIRE% Are your damage building stats. Build some VIT if you need it (I would recommend building it via gems or just equipping an epic life-giving wellspring)
    - It is not worth to crest Phoenix Strike debuff duration crest as phoenix strike debuff lasts 10 seconds with a cooldown of 13 seconds, the 3 second downtime is not worth it.
    - Preferably grab grimoire to help with push mechanics, but if you already have dark/light/purple/gold weapons that restrict you from using them unless your weapon matches the costume weapon, go ahead and use the puppet/orb. (If you don't know what I'm talking about then you probably don't have them and that's okay! They were just a past egg item that restricted you from using a weapon that doesn't match your costume weapon)
    - ??


    I asked around for info on 93 raids/nests/pyro buffs before making this.
    If I forgot anything or if there's any other info that should be added pls tell me
    Please go ahead and check out other people's pyromancer guides too before deciding on a build, I am not the only pyromancer on the server and definitely not one of the most active ones.
    If you have any questions regarding Pyromancer, please go ahead and post away ~ If I have trouble answering certain questions, I will consult with others first before answering as I have recently just came back to the game.
    Feel free to use this thread as a place to discuss things related to the pyromancer.



    Art was not done by me but was commissioned by me
    BG/Guide was done by me

    I tried so hard to not make it blue because it wouldn't match the pyro theme but it looked too pretty :'D
    Last edited by SachiMizora; 11-17-2017, 11:23 PM.


    IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
    Other Characters:
    Saint/s -
    Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
    Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
    Ice Witch - SachMizora
    Valkyrie - Sachi

  • #2
    That's the best build that will yield the most dmg output tbh


    Firewall is so cool now that it doesn't take 20 seconds to cast but for some reason I always find myself leftclicking after (bad habit lmao)


    -jelly of how ez it is to build pyro tho-

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zeref View Post
      That's the best build that will yield the most dmg output tbh


      Firewall is so cool now that it doesn't take 20 seconds to cast but for some reason I always find myself leftclicking after (bad habit lmao)


      -jelly of how ez it is to build pyro tho-
      Yup, I like the new firewall ~ and I accidentally leftclick from time to time too ; ~ ;
      I do agree that pyro builds are one of if not the easiest to build xD


      IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
      Other Characters:
      Saint/s -
      Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
      Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
      Ice Witch - SachMizora
      Valkyrie - Sachi

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      • SachiMizora
        SachiMizora commented
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        Oh! Thanks for clarifying ^^

      • Lumpialex
        Lumpialex commented
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        Wait what's wrong with doing the Left Click? Doesn't the left click did what it did before pre awakened or is there something else to it that people shouldn't left click for?

      • SachiMizora
        SachiMizora commented
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        Its not a bad thing, just takes time ~
        If I had fever from the firewall already I would x2 flame burst asap and hot rod >_< bosses move too fast now.

    • #4
      Beautiful guide
      Snobu - Smasher aka War Mage
      Nico - Destroyer

      Someone will always ruin something for others...
      PVE War Mage Guide

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      • #5
        Originally posted by Snobu View Post
        Beautiful guide
        Thank you ~

        Originally posted by TheDare
        Sexy guide just like you
        Thank you??

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        IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
        Other Characters:
        Saint/s -
        Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
        Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
        Ice Witch - SachMizora
        Valkyrie - Sachi

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        • #6
          Nice Guide!

          (I still think Pyro's EX skills should have Blue flames instead)

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Aquamarine View Post
            Nice Guide!

            (I still think Pyro's EX skills should have Blue flames instead)
            That would be mad cool tbh. Would also make sense considering blue's the strongest flame



            gonna go Azula on these hoes

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            • koko
              koko commented
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              Azula wasn't all that cool but her flames are the best flames.

          • #8
            Originally posted by Aquamarine View Post
            Nice Guide!

            (I still think Pyro's EX skills should have Blue flames instead)
            I've been wanting this ever since I played this game as an elementalist in 24 cap.. ; ~ ;
            Wish there were options in-game or some sort of cash shop item that changes the colour of your skills entirely, insta buy.


            IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
            Other Characters:
            Saint/s -
            Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
            Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
            Ice Witch - SachMizora
            Valkyrie - Sachi

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            • #9
              What would be recommended gem's for this? Int/crit or Int/Hp

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              • Fabulous
                Fabulous commented
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                Crit is more important, since it increases your chances of doing more damage. It's a balancing act where you have to figure out how much HP you can live with. I think 1.5m can get you through everything. During 90 cap, I would use mostly crit gems unless I had to take on the latest content (like DDN), where I would switch to a couple of vit gems.

            • #10
              Originally posted by Andromedy View Post
              What would be recommended gem's for this? Int/crit or Int/Hp
              Depends which one you need more

              - If you do not know mechanics good enough to dodge everything, you'd best get some int/hp. You may add some int/crit in there if you're doing okay with mechanics but remember, A dead pyro don't do no damage!
              - You are practicing raids at the moment, int/hp would be best for this so you can survive through those mechanics to learn the raid.
              - You know mechanics, perfect at dodging, but your crit is below 50% ?? definitely get some int/crit gems up in there (On the topic of this.. I'm very sad that hellfire got removed while I was gone from the game.. WHY)

              Alternatively you can end up using both, I suggest having at least 2-3 int/hp gems incase. I haven't touched IDN yet as I still need to gear up for it.
              Right now I'm currently using both gems as my gear is quite.. bad at the moment ^^" I recently came back to the game with like 12g in my inventory haha.. ; ~ ;


              IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
              Other Characters:
              Saint/s -
              Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
              Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
              Ice Witch - SachMizora
              Valkyrie - Sachi

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              • Andromedy
                Andromedy commented
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                The loss of hellfire is indeed very sad. I was pretty upset when I logged in after the update and saw it was gone. I'm not very good at gearing so for me that skill was life. 90 cap I had about 55-60% crit IIRC with only 3-4 crit gems. Now my same gear I only have 36% crit so i'm going to assume it'd be better at this point to go for int/hp in order to gear myself. The struggle is real But thank you for your reply I greatly appreciate it !

              • SachiMizora
                SachiMizora commented
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                No problem, I'm glad I helped somehow :'D
                Goodluck gearing ^^

            • #11
              Update #1:

              - Extra Notes have been updated with some basic stuff, will update this more if I start remembering what else I should add..
              - PvP base build will be uploaded sometime this week or next week, the reason I am only uploading a base build is because PvP builds highly depend on your playstyle/preference. I also do not PvP as much anymore and I don't think I plan on to anymore.. Ladder is meh and arena PvP is something I already left in 60 cap? Just much more things I should spend my time on.
              - Gearing Guide may be uploaded this week or next week too, I won't be going TOO in-depth for this and stating why you should get this and that for every single item..
              - Added links for the skill build simulator & the gear simulator
              - Another DPS rotation has been added.. though this is just something I've been seeing myself do when I can't get near a boss


              Last edited by SachiMizora; 10-17-2016, 06:31 PM.


              IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
              Other Characters:
              Saint/s -
              Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
              Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
              Ice Witch - SachMizora
              Valkyrie - Sachi

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              • #12
                Update #2:

                - PvP base build has been posted and my opinions on what you may want to consider leveling etc. Please tell me if I forgot something important as I do have quite the brain farts :'D
                - Gearing Guide will be posted via text and not image because of how this can change with new items being added in more frequently than pyro skills.
                - Gearing Guide is being finalised before posting sometime this week.
                - Fixed Images so they would be the original size I wanted them to appear on this forum.. I literally did not know how to use these new forums ha.

                <<< Literally me making this pvp thing... time to get back to work ~ .. haha




                IGN: SachiMizora | Class: Pyromancer | Discord: Sachi #2301 | Hangs out @ Ch7 | Pyromancer Guide | Tumblr
                Other Characters:
                Saint/s -
                Generosity, SaeyoungChoi & Pure
                Light Bringer - Aussie, KaidenMizora
                Ice Witch - SachMizora
                Valkyrie - Sachi

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                • #13
                  What I noticed-
                  - Misspelled the word 'recommend' and 'inferno'
                  - Ignite awakening passive requires Lv12

                  Honestly though I found pyro a little tight on SP pvp-wise.. personally had to give up elemental shield to make room for awakening + dash

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                  • SachiMizora
                    SachiMizora commented
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                    omg I even asked someone to proof read incase I misspelt something.. @A@
                    time to fix, thanks for finding mistakes

                • #14
                  Ummm I was gonna make a seperate thread about this but has anyone else noticed their skill being a bit bugged? I had fire shield learned before this skill change and I can use the new Elemental shield but it says I don't have it learned... if I try to learn it it actually eats up my SP so...

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                  • Fabulous
                    Fabulous commented
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                    The old skills like Hellfire and Fire/Ice Shield are still programmed into the game as separate skills. If you didn't reset your build, you still have them "learned." Thus, as long as you don't replace the skill icon on your bar with the new Elemental Shield, you can use Fire Shield and it'll have the same effect, just with the new fire/ice animation. The new Elemental Shield does not burn or frostbite, but the old F/I Shields do.

                  • Zeref
                    Zeref commented
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                    My build was bugged like this lol but I had to reset it cause I didn't have enough SP for my awakening skills.

                • #15
                  Has anyone tried or thought of running full on techs/various techs instead of RDN L + Hot Rod High Int/High Int Generic Earring?

                  I see a couple of people doing that and I am curious on how well it would do if one did that regardless of the decrease in dmg shown below.


                  First setup is RDN L's + Hot Rod High Int, also my current setup. Every set up has Hot Rod high Int since it's a staple. Also considering you weapon tech Fireball.

                  Techs being:
                  High Int Neck - Ignite
                  High Int Earring - Hot Rod
                  Crit + Elements Ring - Firewall
                  Crit + Elements Ring - Magma Ball

                  Unless there's better skills to tech, this is just what I've seen people do.

                  Not sure if it's worth it really.
                  Last edited by Lumpialex; 10-31-2016, 12:50 PM.
                  Discord: Lumpialex#1253

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                  • SachiMizora
                    SachiMizora commented
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                    I personally haven't tried full techs this cap but I can see it being used as another option for people who can't afford RDN L's.
                    Though you lose a lot of FD and raw mdmg >.<
                    So I think it depends how much FD & Mdmg you have in general, you also lose quite a bit of health too but its not as important as long as you're not dropping below 1.4mil or so..

                    I personally would keep my RDN L's instead of full teching because of the FD i would lose + I only see firewall & fireball worth teching, magma ball its meh and we don't even crest it anymore, ignite is nice but its just 1 hit, not multiple hits.
                    You also lose the ability to put L grade gems into your rings too which would be another loss in stats.

                  • Fabulous
                    Fabulous commented
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                    Rings are only useful for CMs and WMs. You lose out on too much raw damage by using crit/ele. The great thing about RDNL 3-set is that it provides a great base of crit and FD along with L-grade gems. In addition, techs should also benefit the skills. Magma Ball never accounted for much of our DPS, and now it's like 5% on average. It's not worth teching. Firewall is a decent choice. Ignite, although we use it a lot, doesn't do much. They're not our huge hitters, unlike Gravity Well for CMs or ICF and Frozen Spikes for IW.
                    Last edited by Fabulous; 10-31-2016, 08:20 PM.

                  • Lumpialex
                    Lumpialex commented
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                    Yeah that's similar to what I was thinking. Thanks you two~
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