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  • #16
    Originally posted by Genie View Post

    1) So it really doesn't have any connection to trumps views but more so the action of whoever he nominates which you can't say will or will not have a definite effect on the VRA. Glad we could finally reach that conclusion.
    2) Was a previous comment I made before, which I wasn't sure you were directly responding to, so I found it funny how you immediately jumped to that conclusion after I had just assumed that this is where the whining was going. And I wasn't wrong. But sure, most people voting for trump were voting against clintion. Ofc progressives want to make it about racism, but in reality it was a multitude of DNC/Hillary scandals. If you say Trump won because of racism, or some form of it, then it makes it seem like you are ignoring a large part of corruption that went on in hillary clintons campaign that would push someone to vote for trump.
    "Most especially when the other side was offering solutions for fixing student loans, low cost college, fixing healthcare, raising the min wage, paid leave, etc., which wold have helped those working class whites."
    Which is the other side? I'm going to assume republican based on the conclusion of this sentence, but "low cost college/raising the min wage" sounds more llike a democratic plan.
    3) I'm aware. I didn't say me, I said you.
    4) Exaggeration based on fear is fear mongering. ~_~)

    1) You reached that delusional conclusion on your own. But keep ignoring the reality or the GOPs war on the VRA and how they have - along with the Supreme Court - been successful in gutting it. Keep ignoring the Originalists (do you even know what this means) that Trump has already put forward. All you have to do is look them up and their past casework.

    2) You can look at exit polling to get an ideal. And the overwhelming majority of Trump's support came from white men/women. The "never Clinton" support for Trump was relatively small in comparison. The other side is the Democratic side. Those solutions would have helped working-class whites as well as minorities, but as have been show, working-class whites are willing to suffer just as long as minorities suffer more; so they vote against their own interests.

    3) You are obviously *not* aware if you're bandying about this "you never know" bullshit.

    4) I'll concede that due to his exaggerating. That doesn't take away from the fact that there are very real consequences to a Trump/GOP total control of every branch of the government.

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    • #17
      We got a climate change denier as President. Let that set in. He believes global warming is a Chinese Hoax and will fill his cabinet with people who share this view. I'm scared.

      Just look at this

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...e_skeptic.html

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      • #18
        global warming is scientifically a Myth.

        Climate Change occurs every million or so years as part of the changing of seasons based on how the earth tilts relative to the sun. We as Humans Can do Absolutely NOTHING to prevent it. #ActualScientificFact
        IGN: LunarForce

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        • #19
          "2) You can look at exit polling to get an ideal. And the overwhelming majority of Trump's support came from white men/women. The "never Clinton" support for Trump was relatively small in comparison. The other side is the Democratic side. Those solutions would have helped working-class whites as well as minorities, but as have been show, working-class whites are willing to suffer just as long as minorities suffer more; so they vote against their own interests."
          Never clinton support was small in comparison to support that came from white men and women??? That doesn't really make sense.
          The "never clinton" support was mostly made up of white women and men. In fact they were chanting "lock her up" during his rally before he gave an acceptance speech. So to say its relatively small compared to anything regarding his campaign is wrong imo.
          Clintons corruption was at the very least one of the most important reasons why he won the white house. Like I said previously if you're going to draw the conclusion that the majority of the reason he won was because of race then you seem like you are more interested in pushing your agenda about ideas towards race, then the acts of the dnc/hillary that would push someone to vote for trump.
          3)Yeah because if you don't have some telescope into the future, or at least him specifically mentioning these actions about VRA as his own plans, then I'm not easily swayed or convinced by this "the world is going to end and we lose all our rights" propaganda bullshit. There was a lot of disagreement within the republic party regarding trump ESPECIALLY around the idea of voting for him specifically to vote against Hillary. So now to see someone say all of a sudden that the GOP is a collective mindset against progress in order to support trump is quite frankly horseshit.
          Last edited by Genie; 11-09-2016, 04:28 PM. Reason: i'm tired

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Genie View Post
            "2) You can look at exit polling to get an ideal. And the overwhelming majority of Trump's support came from white men/women. The "never Clinton" support for Trump was relatively small in comparison. The other side is the Democratic side. Those solutions would have helped working-class whites as well as minorities, but as have been show, working-class whites are willing to suffer just as long as minorities suffer more; so they vote against their own interests."
            Never clinton support was small in comparison to support that came from white men and women??? That doesn't really make sense.
            The "never clinton" support was mostly made up of white women and men. In fact they were chanting "lock her up" during his rally before he gave an acceptance speech. So to say its relatively small compared to anything regarding his campaign is wrong imo.
            Clintons corruption was at the very least one of the most important reasons why he won the white house. Like I said previously if you're going to draw the conclusion that the majority of the reason he won was because of race then you seem like you are more interested in pushing your agenda about ideas towards race, then the acts of the dnc/hillary that would push someone to vote for trump.
            3)Yeah because if you don't have some telescope into the future, or at least him specifically mentioning these actions about VRA as his own plans, then I'm not easily swayed or convinced by this "the world is going to end and we lose all our rights" propaganda bullshit. There was a lot of disagreement within the republic party regarding trump ESPECIALLY around the idea of voting for him specifically to vote against Hillary. So now to see someone say all of a sudden that the GOP is a collective mindset against progress in order to support trump is quite frankly horseshit.
            It's like talking to a brick wall. You're not making any sense. You don't need to see the future when the precedent is already there. And the GOP is a collective mind against progress. Just look at GOP controlled States (governors and legislature). I don't understand why you're ignoring this point. I also don't understand why you're ignoring Paul Ryan's pledge to use reconciliation to push a conservative agenda. I mean, you can ignore reality all you want, but I'm not. Wrt the VRA are you even familiar whit how it's been weakened over the years? And by whom? Are you familiar with what happened in North Carolina?

            http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...period-n633571

            On Monday, Gov. Pat McCrory asked the U.S. Supreme Court to put the ID requirement and the early voting cuts back into effect. The state did not challenge the restoration of same-day registration or out-of-precinct voting. If the high court declines to intervene, as looks likely, Republicans have a backup plan: Pressuring local election boards to make early voting as inconvenient as possible.

            Related: North Carolina Asks Supreme Court to Block Voter ID Ruling

            Early voting has become extremely popular in recent elections in North Carolina, and it's disproportionately favored by African-Americans. In 2008, over 60 percent of black voters cast their ballots early, compared to 44 percent of white voters, according to one expert analysis. In 2012, those figures rose to 64 percent and 49 percent respectively.

            The first Republican effort to limit early voting came in 2013, when North Carolina Republicans passed a multi-pronged voting law that imposed an ID requirement, eliminated same-day voter registration, and cut the early voting period from 17 days to 10, among other provisions. That law was overturned by a federal appeals court last month, which found that Republicans passed the measure after receiving data showing that blacks vote early, and lack ID, at higher rates than whites.


            Their bullshit has been validated and they are only going to go further. Ignoring this is to ignore reality.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LunarForce View Post
              global warming is scientifically a Myth.

              Climate Change occurs every million or so years as part of the changing of seasons based on how the earth tilts relative to the sun. We as Humans Can do Absolutely NOTHING to prevent it. #ActualScientificFact
              You're a moron.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BigBeef
                Anyone that's not a straight white christian should be worried about their own safety and their rights being trampled on.

                This country is gonna get destroyed from the inside out.
                We're going to get nationwide stop-and-frisk and there's nothing we can do about it. And that scares me.

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                • #23
                  trump is daddy

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kablooey View Post

                    It's like talking to a brick wall. You're not making any sense. You don't need to see the future when the precedent is already there. And the GOP is a collective mind against progress. Just look at GOP controlled States (governors and legislature). I don't understand why you're ignoring this point. I also don't understand why you're ignoring Paul Ryan's pledge to use reconciliation to push a conservative agenda. I mean, you can ignore reality all you want, but I'm not. Wrt the VRA are you even familiar whit how it's been weakened over the years? And by whom? Are you familiar with what happened in North Carolina?

                    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...period-n633571

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                    Their bullshit has been validated and they are only going to go further. Ignoring this is to ignore reality.
                    Regardless it seems quite obvious that you're using circular logic here. Republicans pass law that weaks VRA > donald trump is a republican > so donald trump wants to destroy the vra.
                    Besides that I don't necessarily disagree with the restrictions that have been placed on the VRA. However I do disagree with the notion that the VRA will be thrown out completely because of his presidency. Just more exaggeration based on fear. More restrictions? Is a possibility. The idea that it won't exist at all because of his presidency sounds ludicrous.

                    "Just look at GOP controlled States (governors and legislature). I don't understand why you're ignoring this point."
                    The epitome of this sentence is "Apples are poisonous, just go look at farms in the country". That is not a point. You can't prove that everyone within a political party thinks the same even if they agree with each other on certain political issues. If thats the case then please explain "Republicans For Hillary." Can you also explain why there is/were so many republicans who opposed trump and endorsed hillary, if the GOP is a collective mindset against progress?
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...campaign,_2016
                    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...-trump-n530696

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by LunarForce View Post
                      global warming is scientifically a Myth.

                      Climate Change occurs every million or so years as part of the changing of seasons based on how the earth tilts relative to the sun. We as Humans Can do Absolutely NOTHING to prevent it. #ActualScientificFact
                      It's true there's a cycle of Global Warming/Freezing on Earth that comes naturally. BUT there's a huge difference when it's proven (Starting around industrial age) that the human race did in 50 years what ''Nature'' took thousand of years (if not more !) for the same temperature changes. Don't try to go scientific if you aren't even one. Wikipedia and Google are not references. The cycle would be there with or without us and no scientific worth that name would deny that, but we are making it happen so fast that we are commiting collective suicide as a specie.

                      Also on paper, Trump got 45,5% of the votes while Clinton got 45.7%. Trump didn't even get majority of the votes. He only won because the electoral college votes were at the lucky spots for him. 54,3% of the USA doesn't want Trump as their president, yet he got 100% of the power.

                      At least, if this election was decided by 18-25, all of the states except 8 would be Democrates. There's hope for the future and I wish you luck because my Canada will suffer from it -.- ... Also sad and deplorable to know that 45,5% of the USA are accepting Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia and mysoginism as their way of life since a president will represent you with those ''WONDERFUL'' qualities.

                      Cheers and good luck, those next 4 years will be dark but you can still switch Senate power in 2 years.
                      Last edited by Axxon; 11-09-2016, 08:24 PM.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Axxon View Post
                        Also sad and deplorable to know that 45,5% of the USA are accepting Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia and mysoginism as their way of life since a president will represent you with those ''WONDERFUL'' qualities.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LunarForce View Post
                          global warming is scientifically a Myth.

                          Climate Change occurs every million or so years as part of the changing of seasons based on how the earth tilts relative to the sun. We as Humans Can do Absolutely NOTHING to prevent it. #ActualScientificFact
                          You always came off as a complete total moron to me, and now I have actual evidence of it.

                          Looks like my gut feeling for years has been validated.

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                          • LunarForce
                            LunarForce commented
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                            http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2014/07...lobal-warming/ don't be an ignorant fool and do your research.

                            Geologic Records of our climate goes back hundreds of millions of years.

                            Our Global Temperature Average is LOW compared to the Initial Eocene thermal maxima where its temperature was 13 Degrees F Higher on average.

                        • #28
                          Where are the safe spaces when you need them

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                          • #29
                            Originally posted by Genie View Post
                            Even if he really went easy on Hillary (She's the lesser of two devils, but I still admit she's an hypocrite and IMO you guys had two jerks as candidates... But at least I had hopes for some self-control if she became president, Trump won't have any self-control), His points are still valid for Trump. Voting for him is approving/accepting/being accomplice (call it what you want) of what he said.



                            'nuff Said
                            Last edited by Axxon; 11-09-2016, 08:31 PM.
                            Main : I'm back to Pyromancer LOL now, always open to help and all kind of stuff on DN, hit me up <3
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                            • #30
                              Originally posted by Genie View Post
                              Where are the safe spaces when you need them
                              I could use a safe space right about now, considering I GOT FUCKING PUNCHED IN THE FACE AT WORK TODAY OVER THIS SHIT.

                              All because I tried to comfort someone who was harassed earlier in the day about having children being taunted that they were going to be deported, and some Trump supporter that had no business listening in couldn't handle the display of sympathy.

                              You who have never known what real consequences are, probably not even yet out of high school, typing behind a computer screen. How privileged you must be.

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