Why are eggs such a scam

[aaron]

If we're comparing our version to other versions, it should be noted online gaming culture is a lot different from Asia than it is here... even in SEA. That point aside, we also have underlying community issues, such as entitlement, division on issues, and more. With that in mind, I understand ED's decisions here, but don't particularly agree with them.

[aaron]

Cultural differences especially in online PC gaming is the single largest factor on why localization, inclusive of restricting features exists, but whatever floats your boat. Regardless, as a whole I understand why ED made these decisions.

[ceruulean]

Well there are entitled dikheads in every game in every country across this world, and SEA gamers complain of the same things we do. Remember when they had creator nest that gave out free 625 fd wings? All the ppl who bought the Viking set complained.

idk about you but does it really kill ED to give 1 virtual item to the loyal customers that spent $500 and got nothing? For all the people that got their sets there are 10 more who tried, failed, and remain silent but vow to never buy eggs again.

also EU is western? Are EU gamers somehow less entitled since hey got rekt by the server crash?

and now that this region is open to Souh America, are you really going to say South Americans are entitled and have a different culture, so let's not make the servers fair and beneficial for all players?

why is the gm compensate people who make a mistake and break their lgrades when they can get another free one without paying real money, but if you spend money on cash shop, get unlucky, and ask for some leeway its "nope give us more ur a dick for asking"

[aaron]

Entitlement and division of issues were striking a larger picture, so you can ignore that. Culture wise, especially if South America is included, I can see why ED made the choices they made. Not to say I agree with them, I just understand. Anyways, asking for these is might as well make it a recharge/spending event. We saw how much people hated that lol.

I'm sorry about your whole egg thing though. I admit they're a scam if you buy them straight up, but collecting via veyep makes it a lot better and fair, so there's a small work around if anything.

[ceruulean]

Entitlement and division of issues were striking a larger picture, so you can ignore that. Culture wise, especially if South America is included, I can see why ED made the choices they made. Not to say I agree with them, I just understand. Anyways, asking for these is might as well make it a recharge/spending event. We saw how much people hated that lol.

I'm sorry about your whole egg thing though. I admit they're a scam if you buy them straight up, but collecting via veyep makes it a lot better and fair, so there's a small work around if anything.

Wtf who actually hates spending events

the only pair of rare wings I got was from the tier spender event with Nexon.

anyway I'd like to see your reasoning on how people are more entitled in NA when we'be been GIMPED FOR YEARS.

If I was stupid I'd buy more ec, get the VIP pack and let ed off the hook saying "yeah I understand they're scared of losing money so I'll give em more"

a canadian thing if you want to get all stereotypical


look we all know ed wants to make money business is business

The rest of us reasonable human beings are trying to argue that opening EC trade and actually having customer service for duplicate items will increase revenue, instead of holding on to their shrinking whale trove they need to establish incentives for new customers to spend.

if the dying population isn't indicative of the failings of their ec policies, then I dunno what is. So many spending vets are quitting and not enough new players spending to replace them.

Are they really so fearful of losing profit? They've never even tried unlocking the restrictions!! How can they judge what will happen if it never happens??! All they did was allow green items to be tradable, which barely affects anything except help us rid junk items. Everyone other server is thriving except ours. WHY?!

[ceruulean]

And if anyone argues that our general forum section is filled with complaints showing "entitlement/culture issues" it's because:

1) the game population is small and the forum population of active posters is smaller, so what's the point of having good discussion when you know the same people will post?

2) NA server has been neglected since summer of last year, and continues to be plagued with bugs and heavy restrictions

for goodness sake if you have something to say regarding this thread please post something so I don't look like I'm talking to myself I know y'all out there

[ILLbeURdeath]

I agree with you, however I don't feel the need to write what I said earlier another way. People will read this thread but most will do nothing and for two reasons. One, our server is small, our forum population is even smaller, if there's 1000 players on our server maybe 100 have forum accounts, of those 100 maybe 40 are considered active. Two, is the type of players we have here who choose to be active in the community. Most of the current active players don't want to see change, why? Two reasons: they'll lose their status that they attained under the current system and also feel angry that others could soon have what they have but acquire it at much less cost etc. And, most people are passive, brainwashed zombies if you will and they just want the others to fall into line and shut up and take what they're given. Problem is, people like to be behind the wheel . Also, an educated, informed customer is fully capable of acquiring better services, how? By complaining about it and seeking a change for the better. If enough people showed their distaste for the status quo, best believe ED would try to salvage our server, this market. That's what we're trying to do, we're not seeking special treatment but the same treatment the other servers get .

[milktoast22]

for goodness sake if you have something to say regarding this thread please post something so I don't look like I'm talking to myself I know y'all out there

people are just done complaining cuz they realized all their complaints are falling on deaf ears and nothing will change

[SachiMizora]

people are just done complaining cuz they realized all their complaints are falling on deaf ears and nothing will change

Pretty much this lmao
How long do you guys think players have been complaining?
So long that we've pretty much accepted it at this point that ED won't do anything to change the system.
Because the amount of players that would still spend hundreds/thousands no matter what (Yes buying EC with gold is the same shiet people) is one of the things that make them KEEP the system. Why would they want to change that other than to satisfy us?
If they really cared about our satisfaction this would've been changed a long time ago.

[ILLbeURdeath]

Says who? Who are you to state what doesn't work and what does given the fact that you have given up. You gave up, point blank. Just because you gave up doesn't mean the rest of us should. The simple fact that Dean has been appointed to us at least shows a glimmer of hope. If they didn't care, we'd still be Dean-less and as you said the status quo still in place. Think about it, the actual developers are attempting to reach out to us, why? Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I hope it's not the bleak future you foretell.

Remember this saying as well, I've said many times, "quiet, hungry mouths don't get fed".

[koko]

I usually don't spend that much on DN anymore for a while, but just thought i would "whale out" as well this time around for the Cold Mirage Set. I was pretty patient and I had VIP on 2 chars. I was lucky enough to get Necklace, Tail, Wings without duplicates at all. So that was when I bought 60 eggs, to try for a decal. Another 60, another 60, then another 90... etc and before I knew it; I already made all the tiers for that recent spending event and not to mention way more. I learned my lesson, shouldn't lose control over these things. And we're just 1 other player for ED, and I doubt they will attend to every single person's needs. And they've never exchanged duplicates, which sucks but we gotta live with it anyway..

So in the end, I can't really leave/quit DN, i like playing it, i like playing with the people I'm playing so I'm just sucking up and living it.

"Quite, hungry mouths don't get fed." True. But I've also spoken up/sent in ticket and got ignored/ticket closed/ denied, so I'm just "eh , whatever, mistakes have already been made, just don't make the same mistakes again and not worth the stress".

Good luck, tho; if you're thinking about still opening more. As for me, i'll just ... give up i think lol. @OP

[Otaku]

You could have gotten 750 eggs with just 5 VIP coupons if you decided to wait the entire month but if you're not patient enough then it's your loss $800 for 800 eggs or $165 for 750 eggs.

The Cold Mirage pieces can be put into the server storage too so it makes even more sense to have done it this way.

[aaron]

So, I already said the entitlement issue was more of a big picture thing and not as relevant to this thread specifically.

Culture wise, especially with South America involved now, I think we're a lot more suspect to fraud and abuse when it comes to requests about exchanging duplicates or EC-item trading. Having ED not allow anyone to exchange or whatever reduces the level of abuse that can be done, otherwise those tickets may serve as a catalyst to push the bounds. Kind of a give an inch, take a mile issue. I'm sure this is why Nexon introduced NX-Prepaid and why ED is continuing to service DN's cash shop like Nexon.


Another theory is that it would simply be too hard to recode everything to localize it like every other version. While this is preferred, it's like a pipe dream at this point, considering no one here is really actively pursuing or fighting for a global client.

Anyways, I agree a more free EC trading MP would stimulate the economy and the game would be less pay to win. At the same time, if this happens, I see the system very open to fraud and abuse.

I'm indifferent either way. Open it up for MP trading? I have a lot of duplicates to give away and I'd make a killing doing it. No? Oh well.

There are other reasons why I think this game is dying and why ED have to resort to such sad microtransactions, but again, another thread.

[GatTheRipper]

dragon nest NA is not rlly a good game to be a whale on tbhhhh. too many restrictions and too rng heavy

i wouldve spent that 800 on something worthwhile like 800 bags of doritos or a new pc

if u get the full set of cold mirage it can raise ur dmg more than 2 good pieces of +12 IDN L equips/weps

think about it

800 bags of Doritos is a mint idea ;-;

[Night]

There is a reason why I play like ones every 2 weeks now. It is repetitive and boring along with having too many p2w items now.

[Xammed]

I mean there is of course the obvious fact that ED has no reason to change this. What they see in this post it not "Oh we upset one of our users" rather it is "OHH SHIT THIS USER JUST GAVE US 800!"

How else would they get all their revenue? They literally get paid to scam you...

On the plus side, wing boxes come back every so often... They may help you.

[ceruulean]

They can continue to run this game like a casino, but just as most people don't invest in casinos most people will leave this game for something fulfilling.

look I understand eggs are a gamble and that's how they make money. But I didn't just open 60 eggs and complain about missing set pieces. I opened 800. Those odds are so bad it's like, what's the point of continuing.

The egg gamble is fine, but I guarantee the next raid will have stats based on these cash costumes, and that's gonna suck big time. If they're already headed down that path, at least make it so free players can buy this crap off of paying players

And here y'all suggesting me to buy VIP pack or plead ed for some wing boxes loool, yet according to y'all logic they shouldn't sell wing boxes since that'll cut into their profits. Smh