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  • #76
    Someone tried to say "your arrows did 50k but whatever" so here's a look at tempest dmg besides HD, which I didn't use. These have all been tested multiple times, but the dmg is probably a little higher on a sorc or with crits.

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    • #77
      those damage values appear to be per-tick, and without any buffs/debuffs. fully empowered the total arrow damage on kick shot could easily do 50k to a sorc unless acro has been nerfed to oblivion which i doubt.

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      • #78
        if u rly wanna piss ppl off max+tech+dmg crest multishot and laugh as you delete them
        Last edited by iPokeHard; 11-14-2016, 11:25 PM.

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        • #79
          Definitely not per tick
          but I'll test on anyone here who wants to know
          Last edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 12:25 AM. Reason: 2much2read

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          • ZepIic
            ZepIic commented
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            Bruh. Why would you even contest pokehard about anything smh.

            That said, unless zap does 1.2k those stats are very undershot

          • Cait
            Cait commented
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            It was the combo merc. I would test somebody accurately, given the option.

          • ZepIic
            ZepIic commented
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            you dont need to test it accurately, everybody already knows its NOT accurate. any further testing is just to get specifics or prove to yourself the situation which is a tad disrespectful to everybody so far who has said the same thing i have tbh.

            Straight up, my level 11 zap on a guardian lands about 2.5k + 240x4 ticks so like.... roughly 4000+2500 = 6500 dmg... (eh.. 5500?) Way higher than the 1200 my dmg sheet shows. and it doesn't display the initial hit properly, or even what the smaller ones add up to, more or less the combined total of all 4 times. It's a very confusing result and to me screams its completely not reliable.

            Look. i'm just trying to point out what you did wrong here more than anything else. It has nothing to do with facts. It was just not accepting what a community veteran said who is a pretty reliable dude yo. That's gonna get your ass toasted around here. Knowing who to question or who to simply take their answer as fact will go a long way
            Last edited by ZepIic; 11-15-2016, 01:45 AM.

        • #80
          It's okay Cait, i understand what you mean. These merc nerfs hit us real hard you know. I had 50 bubbles when i did this! And my skills are all maxed!!

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          • #81
            after seeing the merc post...yea those values are obviously bugged if not per-tick LOL.

            maybe im just out of touch but im pretty sure if a temp is only getting 8k out of FW then her build is garbage.

            and no ive never seen these newgen damage counter tools.
            Last edited by iPokeHard; 11-15-2016, 12:24 AM.

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            • Nottloc
              Nottloc commented
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              Don't worry man she was testing in the combo practice room, like lol? No one tests damage on a dude that cuts the dmg in half.

          • #82
            Originally posted by iPokeHard View Post
            after seeing the merc post...yea those values are obviously bugged if not per-tick LOL.

            maybe im just out of touch but im pretty sure if a temp is only getting 8k out of FW then her build is garbage.

            and no ive never seen these newgen damage counter tools.
            Or, I just manipulated the numbers to show how easy it is, like hers.

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            • #83
              Originally posted by Cait View Post
              Someone tried to say "your arrows did 50k but whatever" so here's a look at tempest dmg besides HD, which I didn't use. These have all been tested multiple times, but the dmg is probably a little higher on a sorc or with crits.
              Your build is either garbage or you're manipulating numbers. Either way, all you've done here is humiliate yourself and show that you've got no idea on how PvP works in this game. Congrats on being nominated newgen pvper of the year

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              • #84
                well then, my work here is done.

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                • #85
                  You're right man. I didn't manipulate shet; I used the combo merc, and I didn't realize he was so inaccurate. Idk about mercs, but I saw 2k per hit on match vs a pally. Even if it hits twice that on a glad, that's 4k x 4 hits which is 16k. I'm pretty sure that 50k is a huge exaggeration, especially for a glad, and I'd be happy to prove it to anyone who wants to let me test. I'm sorry but I definitely do not have the patience to wait around for someone to join a "test" room. Can't really screenshot in a 1v1 and without a screenshot, you would accuse me of "manipulating" it.
                  Last edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 12:55 AM.

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                  • #86
                    Originally posted by Cait View Post
                    You're right man. I didn't manipulate shet; I used the combo merc, and I didn't realize he was so inaccurate. Idk about mercs, but I saw 2k per hit on match vs a pally. Even if it hits twice that on a glad, that's 4k x 4 hits which is 16k. I'm pretty sure that 50k is a huge exaggeration, especially for a glad, and I'd be happy to prove it to anyone who wants to let me test.
                    You've got a major issue of pretending your class is weak. Maybe you should play a merc against a fatcrobat and see how "easy" it is for you to counter them. If you think a merc counters an acro then you're just bad at acrobat and should improve! Simple as that.

                    Oh and the damage a class does doesn't make it OP. There is no point in having a skill that hits 40k if it's not going to land or that will be countered in an instant, It's the same issue with reaper vs merc. It doesn't matter how little their damage might be on some skills, if they can keep on countering and picking up a combo then the damage will add up and they'll have the advantage.
                    Last edited by Kurabawara; 11-15-2016, 12:59 AM.

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                    • #87
                      Originally posted by Kurabawara View Post

                      You've got a major issue of pretending your class is weak. Maybe you should play a merc against a fatcrobat and see how "easy" it is for you to counter them. If you think a merc counters an acro then you're just bad at acrobat and should improve! Simple as that.

                      Oh and the damage a class does doesn't make it OP. There is no point in having a skill that hits 40k if it's not going to land or that will be countered in an instant, It's the same issue with reaper vs merc. It doesn't matter how little their damage might be on some skills, if they can keep on countering and picking up a combo then the damage will add up and they'll have the advantage.
                      You must be stuck in 60 cap if you think mercs are weak. Believe me: I'm not afraid to make a class and try it. That's why I have 14 of them right now, all lvl 90+
                      I hardly play acro; this comes from pure, unbiased spectating. This all started with a salty barb who thought he was badass when he won 3-2, using his bl/50/everything, against a WW, and that WW never dropped a combo. Idgaf what y'all salty ass mercs on here say, the WW deserved to win, and the WW wasn't me.

                      wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.

                      You're right btw, damage is not the only thing that makes a class strong but it helps to have aoe, SA, and SA break on basically everything too.
                      I'm not even whining about acro or saying that it's weak like y'all are crying about merc lmfao. I actually said acro is pretty good against pretty much anything.
                      Last edited by Cait; 11-15-2016, 01:44 AM.

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                      • Rokanji
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                        My advice, don't really listen to what others say. Just accept warrior master race and thus hates all female class and will argue against them on everything. Basically what the forum has come to, well... has been like that for a while.

                    • #88
                      Originally posted by Cait View Post


                      wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.
                      I think that depends more on the merc's opponent rather than the merc himself.

                      Just my two cents. Because personally, I love jumping and walking into them to make the match more interesting.... yeah. That.
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                      • Kurabawara
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                        You know dash has enough SA to get out of whirlwind and get away from it... just saying.

                      • ZepIic
                        ZepIic commented
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                        I guess it depends on your class. I've had more luck sa stack breaking whirlwind even in my games vs rei rather than running away

                      • Kurabawara
                        Kurabawara commented
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                        Oh, I was more presenting that as an option rather than a suggestion. Personally, I find it easier to break WW, rather than trying to avoid it.

                        But yea... I was just sorta saying that it's not some god skill that immediately wins all games and that EVERY class has some way to either break it or avoid it.

                    • #89
                      Originally posted by Cait View Post

                      You must be stuck in 60 cap if you think mercs are weak. Believe me: I'm not afraid to make a class and try it. That's why I have 14 of them right now, all lvl 90+
                      I hardly play acro; this comes from pure, unbiased spectating. This all started with a salty barb who thought he was badass when he won 3-2, using his bl/50/everything, against a WW, and that WW never dropped a combo. Idgaf what y'all salty ass mercs on here say, the WW deserved to win, and the WW wasn't me.

                      wait are you saying whirlwind is hard to land LOL I'm done.

                      You're right btw, damage is not the only thing that makes a class strong but it helps to have aoe, SA, and SA break on basically everything too.
                      I'm not even whining about acro or saying that it's weak like y'all are crying about merc lmfao. I actually said acro is pretty good against pretty much anything.
                      1) Never said merc was weak, simply that acro countered it.

                      2)
                      Originally posted by Cait View Post
                      I hardly play acro
                      Everything you have said so far is invalid, thanks for playing.

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                      • Kurabawara
                        Kurabawara commented
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                        "Spectating for 3 years" So you don't actually play the game? Or you think watching it makes you a pro?? I SPECTATE UFC fights, have been doing so for multiple years, do i know more about what Conor McGregor can do than he does? No you fool, playing will give MUCH more experience than watching.

                      • Cait
                        Cait commented
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                        Did you really just compare this game to UFC fights.
                        Yes, I've been playing. I literally just said, word for word, "I used to play acro a lot more" and before that, I had many other classes that I played for months at a time. I didn't pvp as much as most people from 60 cap because the community was trash like no other mmo I'd ever played before. It still is. I just don't care as much.

                        edit: lol he got all mad
                        Last edited by Cait; 11-18-2016, 09:55 PM.

                      • Kurabawara
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                        Did you Really just miss the point of the analogy? I EVEN EXPLAINED IT.... Fuck you're stupid. Google "Analogy" and come back when you're done.

                    • #90
                      much derail

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