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  • KDN April 2018 Skill Changes (PVE)

    Since Vahr (owner of Divinitor blog) is supposedly busy with his real life schedule, I took the liberty of translating the upcoming skill changes ahead of him. There are some minor details regarding Artillery's Magical Breeze and Sniper's Awakened Siege Stance (Aim), but they are just tool tip or bug fix.

    The changes for PVP are similar to PVE (and by that, I mean even the numbers are exactly the same. ED is getting a bit too lazy with their editing...)

    (Source: http://patchnote.dragonnest.com/category?patchnoteno=17)


    ARCHER

    Rage of the Owl
    Cooldown 10 seconds > 5 seconds
    Duration 300 seconds > 900 seconds



    ACROBAT

    Spirit Boost
    Cooldown 44 seconds > 45 seconds
    Duration 22 seconds > 20 seconds

    Spiritual Excel
    Cooldown 10 seconds > 5 seconds
    Duration 180 seconds > 900 seconds



    BOWMASTER

    Bulls Eye
    Cooldown 10 seconds > 5 seconds

    Spiritual Excel
    Cooldown 10 seconds > 5 seconds
    Duration 180 seconds > 900 seconds

    Sylph's Aid
    Increase attack power 25% > 50%
    Cooldown 44 seconds > 90 seconds
    Duration 22 seconds > 20 seconds

    Arrow Barrage
    Attack per arrow 584% > 650%



    SNIPER

    Critical Break
    Activation rate 50% > 40%

    Cheating Point
    Provoking effect is removed
    The flower petal is changed to throw several flower seeds to damage your enemy

    Charged Shot EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 100%

    Siege Stance EX
    Tool tips that were missing are now added to the skill description

    Class Mastery 1
    Increase attack power 30% > 15%

    Class Mastery 2
    Triangle Shot gives 1 Wind Arrow > Triangle Shot reduces Arrow Barrage cooldown

    Class Mastery 3
    Hold [Normal Attack] button while using Piercing Shot to change into Siege Stance mode.
    Piercing Shot cooldown 20 seconds > 15 seconds

    Camouflage
    Cooldown 60 seconds > 45 seconds

    Awakened Siege Stance (Accumulate)
    Wind Arrow acquisition 1 per Arrow Shower > 4 per Arrow Shower

    Awakened Piercing Shot
    Reduce attack power 1000% > 500%



    ELESTRA

    Class Mastery 3
    After Glacial Spike, use Icy Shard EX by [Normal Attack] button instead of skill shortcut

    Ice Cyclone
    Use [Normal Attack] button instead of skill shortcut when the skill is used continuously



    PALADIN

    Lightning Zap
    Cooldown 21 seconds > 14 seconds

    Electric Smite
    Cooldown 27 seconds > 17 seconds



    CRUSADER

    Judge Power
    Cooldown 120 seconds > 90 seconds

    Holy Relic EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 50%
    Elemental debuff duration 10 seconds > 20 seconds

    Lightning Zap EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 50%

    Electric Smite EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 50%

    Class Mastery 2
    New effect - Recover the cooldown of Sliding Step when Divine Breaker hit your target

    Class Mastery 3
    New effect - Recover the cooldown of main skills when Divine Combo hit your target
    Divine Combo damage increased 3900% > 6900%

    Awakened Passive Divine Bless
    Elemental Bless activation rate 35% > 45%



    KALI

    Spirit of Genie
    Duration 300 seconds > 900 seconds



    DANCER

    Twinkle Spin
    Increase attack power 1805% > 2282%

    Inner Fire
    Increase attack power 8438% > 10773%



    BLADE DANCER

    Hurricane Gust
    Increase attack power 402% per hit > 515% per hit

    Twinkle Spin EX
    New effect - Increase attack power 100%
    Additional attack power 30% > 60%

    Elegant Storm EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 60%

    Hurricane Gust EX
    Increase attack power 50% > 100%

    Class Mastery 2
    Increase attack power 10% > 15%

    Grazing Rush
    Increase attack power 4425% > 6896%

    Blade Step
    Increase attack power 580% per hit > 740%



    SPIRIT DANCER

    Dusk Hunter EX
    Increase attack power 30% > 45%

    Abolisher EX
    New effect - Increase attack power 15%

    General Dunblade EX
    New effect - Increase attack power 15%

    Class Mastery 2
    Increase attack power 10% > 15%

    Acanthus
    Increase attack power 8009% > 8970%

    Crushing Hammer
    Increase attack power 10799% > 12095%

    Awakened Spirit Possession
    Wide Stinger damage increase 30% > 45%
    Praetor damage increase 30% > 45%



    ASSASSIN

    Raid
    Duration 300 seconds > 900 seconds



    CHASER

    Dedicate Crow
    Cooldown 90 seconds > 60 seconds



    RIPPER

    Arsonist
    Cooldown 10 seconds > 5 seconds
    Duration 60 seconds > 900 seconds



    PHANTOM

    Madness
    ​​​​​​Up to one additional CTC (max 2) can be stored while the skill is inactive

    Soul Breaker
    Cooldown 15 seconds > 10 seconds

    Intense Suffering
    New effect - Recover 1 CTC of Madness when this skill hit a target

    Lethal Torture
    Reduced casting time for faster effect

    Painkiller
    The number of explosions is reduced from 5 to 3, but total damage remains unchanged.
    If you were attacked while charging the skill, all damage will be unleashed at once.
    Remove HP recovery effect

    Phantom Drive
    New effect - 30% chance to cause Bleeding status
    Bleeding duration 15 seconds, 10% damage per tick
    Cooldown recovery 1 second per hit > 2 seconds per hit
    Reduce attack power 3600% > 1850%

    Death Web
    Debuff is only applied for the last hit

    Bloody Sign
    Bleeding effect is removed
    Damage debuff duration increased 15 seconds > 20 seconds

    Draw Blood
    New effect - Recover 4% HP over 8 seconds when used on enemy with Bleeding status

    Shadow Step
    Can now be used in midair (forward direction)
    Cannot be used while using Dash

    Chain of Pain
    New effect - Deal 10% additional damage when attacking enemy with Bleeding status
    Remove Bleeding spread effect



    BLEED PHANTOM

    Bleed Phantom Transformation
    Reduce attack power 3600% > 1150%

    Shadow Overdrive
    Cooldown 15 seconds > 18 seconds

    [Cruel] Intense Suffering
    Changed to produce instantaneous effect

    Class Mastery 1
    Increase STR and AGI 30% > 50%
    Attack increase effect has been moved to CM 2

    Class Mastery 2
    Lethal Torture INS causes Bleeding status, 100% chance, 15 seconds duration, 10% damage per tick
    Increase elemental attack power effect has been changed to increase attack power
    Increase elemental attack 20% > Increase attack power 15%

    Draw Blood A
    Increase the number of additional hits from 1 to 4
    Damage remains unchanged

    Draw Blood B
    HP recovery effect is changed from periodical to instantaneous
    Last edited by NearLawlet; 04-24-2018, 09:55 AM.

  • #2
    Call me conceited, but has the time finally arrive when Blade Dancer/Bleed Phantom replaces Flurry as the new strongest class?

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    • vangeodee
      vangeodee commented
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      The BP changes look to me more as a balancing act rather than an actual boost. There's a give and take going on, so it's not all boosts. Also you have to consider that outside of dragon-size bosses, BP's SOverdrive isn't really an earth shattering skill.

      But then again, we'll just have to wait and see.
      Last edited by vangeodee; 04-04-2018, 11:19 PM.

    • Jeezus
      Jeezus commented
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      @NearLawlet

      Bro Bleed Phantom Class mastery 2 has no FD
      Its 15% Attack power
      previously was 20% attack power on cm 1
      now loss of 5 % attack and lost 20% elem cm 2

    • NearLawlet
      NearLawlet commented
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      Jeezus Fixed. Thanks for the correction.

  • #3
    so... is that the sniper revamp... coz... its like a demotion on the list of dps tiers

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    • TashaGodspell
      TashaGodspell commented
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      we need more salt HAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Mr.Shovels
      Mr.Shovels commented
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      "Delusional" 1 word to describe all your comments, sorry, imma have to ignore you, you're just too pitiful at this situation right now

    • TashaGodspell
      TashaGodspell commented
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      did you just copy a sentence from someone hahahaaha demn so salty ROFL

  • #4
    I will share this here too; lazy to make thread. CMIIW on these:

    Blade Dancer


    Spirit Dancer:
    Remmystarr from Eden (Discord: Xenocho #8012)
    Please try to read my guide before asking questions on gear optimisation here;
    Old and outdated Engineer guide here; Selling FDN service for FDN weaps (Read here!);

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    • Mr.Shovels
      Mr.Shovels commented
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      so is the revamp for sniper this april? or its just some few changes on her skills preparation for the upcoming revamp?

    • NearLawlet
      NearLawlet commented
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      So am I correct to assume that Spirit Dancer is stronger than Blade Dancer with this revamp?

    • Xenocho
      Xenocho commented
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      I think they are on par. Spirit dancer can cast the 3 main skills and deal super high damage with their burst but BD's use of those 3 main skills also result in similar output.

  • #5
    They kinda fixed Crusader's rework. Kinda hyped!

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    • NearLawlet
      NearLawlet commented
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      Changing Divine Breaker to an Active Skill will affect Guardian as well. And to be honest, it'll be very awkward to use.

      So far, I find Bless Switch rotation (Conviction Bless exclusive for normal MB/HH, and Elemental Bless exclusive for main skills) to be stronger than just sticking to one type all the time.

    • Skyros
      Skyros commented
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      I thought of changing DB like how they changed Inqui's Mindbreaker just for convenience.

      I don't know. As for the current Elemental Bless, the RNG sucks aswell as the activation rate/chance. The Instant versions cant proc the skill and both Smite and LC have above 20 second CD, which could make you miss a cast or two of HH (which chains into more CD time for Thor's Hammer). Elem Bless is indeed good on paper but LC and Smite's long CD hindered it's potential.

      IMO, the Bless Switch worked best under JP, casting Conviction HH and MB -> switch to Elemental-> unload all main skills, then cast the Instant HH/MB if available. A nice thing to note tho is that even under Elemental Bless, the -40% CD recovery works for the Conviction versions of HH and MB (as long as it procs) which could make you squeeze another Conviction MB cast while JP is active.
      Last edited by Skyros; 04-04-2018, 10:28 PM.

    • LordQuntus
      LordQuntus commented
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      CM3 will recover 4 main skill cd by 8 seconds , main skill refers to zap, HR, JH, AND smite, from this point, cm3 divine combo will become another important skill for crusader in the future.

  • #6
    So...the part about cheating point crapping out seeds. How does that work?

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    • Mr.Shovels
      Mr.Shovels commented
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      flower sucks, cheating point sucks, whats the "point" now of the change on the skill

    • Mr.Shovels
      Mr.Shovels commented
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      NearLawlet can you confirm if the cheating point attack is dependent towards the amount of arrows hits the cheating point? for example, i used the spread version attack style of siege stance by using the special attack button, do i get multiple petals dropped from the cheating point? or it is dependent only on the attacks siege stance made and not with how many arrows are hit with it?

      and also, is it only siege stance that affects it? what about the enhanced version of charged shot and arrow shower whenever you use siege stance? does piercing shot has effects on cheating point as well when you use it to activate siege stance by holding the normal attack button after using piercing shot?

    • Mr.Shovels
      Mr.Shovels commented
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      nvm, found it, here's a link https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AmO3atQoKI remove the space

  • #7
    I have mixed feelings about bleed phantom changes. On one hand, i am glad that we can recover hp more easily now. But on the other, I don't like the 18sec cd of shadow overdrive.

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    • #8
      Sylph's Aid
      Cooldown 44 seconds > 90 seconds
      Duration 22 seconds > 20 seconds

      at least attack% increase

      Patience is a virtue~
      Thank you Huzaaaart for my Avatar~

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      • Jirokun
        Jirokun commented
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        Sylph's Aid
        Increase attack power 25% > 50%
        Cooldown 44 seconds > 90 seconds
        Duration 22 seconds > 20 seconds

      • Mr.Shovels
        Mr.Shovels commented
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        this is actually fine since its 50% increase in attack power, that's a large boost compared to having a longer cooldown, this is only to say that you should use it on key strategy in the game, whenever you cast your powerful skills without interruption from the enemy

    • #9
      I forgot to add that Crusader's CM3 Divine Combo damage was increased from 3900% to 6900%.

      Do let me know if there's anything else that I miss.

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      • Mr.Shovels
        Mr.Shovels commented
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        they ruined the cheating point, no "point" in using it now

    • #10
      so.....where is ML boost ?or they plans to delete ML from the game ?

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      • Xenocho
        Xenocho commented
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        I do not play ML but iirc, similar comments were shared from CDN analysis as well. The dmg of skills were boosted significantly that the output immediately hit top tier, similar to how SS is now

      • vangeodee
        vangeodee commented
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        Excellent. Just what I wanted to hear.

      • Mr.Shovels
        Mr.Shovels commented
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        you would pretty much understand the dps tier of a class by how much damage the class can deal per second, there are categories on which skills is classified, this is only my opinion and analysis since no one ever in the forums actually comes up with categories of certain skills.

        Instant
        Burst
        Consecutive

        Instant - not to be confused by the "instant EX" of skills, instants are a category of a skill that deals 1~2 or a few ticks of damage each time they cast that particular skill, for example, Dark Crash when landed, the skill damage ticked 1 huge impact on an enemy(s) and that is what you would call "instant" because the damage dealt by that skill is instantaneous and it just needs 1 landing hit in order to deal massive damage, ofc while dark crash is charging, there are ticks of damage being dealt, but it is categorized as "instant" because of the main damage it deals, but it still adds up to its dps. another great example is that of ML's X-Smash which deals massive amount of damage with just a few hits, and ofc it does need a few hits to deal all the damage, but this can't be classified as a Burst, considering it only requires a few hits that impossible to be avoided by any PVE enemies, not excluding in PVP as well.

        Burst - Bursts damage skill category are skills that deals rapid ticks of damage, such as cyclone axe, in order to deal all the damage, the player must land all the hits in order to deal full damage as to what is described on the skill, let's say 1000%, but it did not say "per hit" but cyclone axe requires you to to get close to your enemies, and keep on hitting them with your cyclone, the rapid ticks of damage you see is what you call "bursts" of damage, and you need successfully hit your enemies with the skill.

        Consecutive - this category can be classified on certain skills such as the sniper's wind shaft, the skill stated that "90% of charged shot per hit" on the charged shot EX (current skill tooltip) consecutive hits of damage is dealt to enemies, these type of skills can't be classified as burst because the damage output is not as a whole, even if you don't land it, the tooltip stated that "90% of charged shot" damage is dealt, while "Burst" damage requires you to land every hit the skill animation progresses. another example would be flash stance of the ML, it says that "413%dmg per hit" is on the tooltip of the skill, which means it will deal that much damage per hit, and using the special attack button deals more damage.

    • #11
      Originally posted by yoricks View Post
      so.....where is ML boost ?or they plans to delete ML from the game ?
      ML has been boosted in KR on last February.
      We might get them in June.

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      • #12
        Why did they have to nerf acrobat's spirit boost? its the only skill thats keeping acrobats from sinking below bottom tier dps. >.>

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        • Mr.Shovels
          Mr.Shovels commented
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          i dunno they did some unnecessary changes on some of the skills of other class as well... this is really like they are joking on us, hope its an april fools joke and not some kind of crap "update"

      • #13
        i forgot to ask, is this the april update for our server, or its an update for the KDN server?

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        • vangeodee
          vangeodee commented
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          KDN update. so we'll probably get it a few months down the line. maybe june or july?

        • atom100
          atom100 commented
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          KDN , it's in the thread title , 3 to 4 months before it arrives here.

        • Mr.Shovels
          Mr.Shovels commented
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          thanks, looks like the revamp i saw on Divinitor's blog isn't the one that will be on our update this 3 or 4 months PVE balance

      • #14
        So what the heck is this change for Artillery?
        WARD OF THE SPIRITS

        • Combined passive effects to enhance Spiritual Acceleration.

        source: https://blog.divinitor.com/blog/2018...r-translation/

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        • #15
          Me when i saw Elestra being mentioned in PVE Balance :



          Me after it already translated :
          Last edited by WildMist; 04-06-2018, 12:29 AM.

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