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**elvesguild** · 03-31-2018, 08:44 AM

Also, I have to add:
12. I have around 35k gold, 20,000+ Wonderful/Nest/Nightmare/Dungeon points/Crystal points, and 10k Crystal Points. Any smart way to spend these stuff, in relation to my goals above?
13. I realised that some people are selling 95 Rare Talismans/95 Epic Jades in TH for reasonable prices, which made me think that there may be other ways to get these other than spending Nightmare/Nest points. And so, where do I get these 95 rare talismans/95 epic jades?

The number of NPC stores in SH is mind-boggling I dunno which is which anymore @_@

Thanks!

**Mr.Shovels** · 03-31-2018, 09:04 AM

to answer your question my fellow forum member...

You can obtain Mid-grade powerstones from Heatwave Volcano Nest, Grievous Guardian Nest, Mist Nest all in Hardcore modes, this is the efficient and difficult way of obtaining these stones, aside from those nests, you can buy them from the crystal points store, from berlin (20 low-grade powerstones each type +10gold, 7gold with golden goose membership) Community Points store located near TH from Heraldry Scholar Stas.
You cannot Craft Rune dragon accessories, they can only be looted at a hardcore mode of the RuDN, both unique and epic lvl95 accessories are surpassed by the level 93 rune dragon accessory, it is in terms of attribute stats (eg. AGI, STR, INT, VIT) passion seals, determination and fury hanger are all accessories most useful if equipped with the right jades, mostly level 95 unique jades, this is because they only increase a percentage of stat, and does not give a solid amount of attribute stat to your main attribute, a set of rud accessory costs 20kg below, best if you buy it, or find a party in public to carry you as luggage and you might snag a good accessory by that time... or you can buy a service run for RuDN Hardcore 8man, just for 5k gold, you might snag a one or two accessory there, its a FFA service
Yes green talismans are a waste of nightmare points if you look at it a regular player's perspective, but you can actually have use of the talisman you buy worth 1k NM points, if the stats is not what you want, you can disassemble it, this way there is a chance you can get a talisman core/essence out of it, but its a gamble consider buying the essence instead, and after you have atleast enough or 10 talisman cores/essences, consider spamming it to receive the talisman fragments, and get a chance to get some talisman cores/essence
lvl 95 talismans
same as answer #4
lvl 95 jades are only useful for players who doesn't have +10 lvl93 dragon jades, do not consider enhancing your lvl93 dragon jades anymore and use this instead, lvl 95 dragon jades provide a much budget friendly approach for newbies and veterans or comeback players alike, so to speak they are more powerful than a level 93 jade +5, but level 93 +15 dragon jades are superior, because they provide better stat (considering they add 4% on the attribute) and you can swap between critical jades, or vit jades, they provide more survivability than level 95 jades because 95jades gives only vit and a percentage of max hp, unlike the vit jade of level 93 dragon jades, they provide a fixed amount of HP addition to the vit and max hp percentage.
no they cannot, the way to improve level 95 jades is to either craft better rarity, unique or legend, but legend is the most powerful jade of this current patch and current level cap, but are the most expensive, 1 jade could cost 500~650k gold depending on how many times you failed to nail a mid-grade jade heart, or if you purchase this from someone else
no, you just need the crafting materials required to craft the jade, its efficient and budget friendly to craft than to buy, but the stats may vary, it depends on your preference
no
lvl 95 jades
same as answer #10
save them, and save your gold, if you participated on the current surprise event, you may need that to convert your medea t2 +20 into calypse

**elvesguild** · 03-31-2018, 11:14 AM

Thank you. I appreciate the response.
My further questions are in red.

Originally posted by Mr.Shovels View Post

to answer your question my fellow forum member...

[1]You can obtain Mid-grade powerstones from Heatwave Volcano Nest, Grievous Guardian Nest, Mist Nest all in Hardcore modes, this is the efficient and difficult way of obtaining these stones, aside from those nests, you can buy them from the crystal points store, from berlin (20 low-grade powerstones each type +10gold, 7gold with golden goose membership) Community Points store located near TH from Heraldry Scholar Stas.

[2]You cannot Craft Rune dragon accessories, they can only be looted at a hardcore mode of the RuDN, both unique and epic lvl95 accessories are surpassed by the level 93 rune dragon accessory, it is in terms of attribute stats (eg. AGI, STR, INT, VIT) passion seals, determination and fury hanger are all accessories most useful if equipped with the right jades, mostly level 95 unique jades, this is because they only increase a percentage of stat, and does not give a solid amount of attribute stat to your main attribute, a set of rud accessory costs 20kg below, best if you buy it, or find a party in public to carry you as luggage and you might snag a good accessory by that time... or you can buy a service run for RuDN Hardcore 8man, just for 5k gold, you might snag a one or two accessory there, its a FFA service
2.a. Actually, I was first referring to the skill crystals (diamond thingies) which are used as materials to craft 93 Skill Accessories. Upon checking Berlin, those skill crystals can be found in RuDN. Am I missing something here?
2.b. [What are passion seals/determination/fury hanger?] I found it in GearSim. But where do I get these three?
2.c. What is that "RuD Accessory" set?
2.d. What is an "FFA Service"?
2.e. So the RuDN Hardcore service works like this: I find a party, pay them, and then get inside the raid, and hope that at the end, I get the accessories that I am looking for?

[3]Yes green talismans are a waste of nightmare points if you look at it a regular player's perspective, but you can actually have use of the talisman you buy worth 1k NM points, if the stats is not what you want, you can disassemble it, this way there is a chance you can get a talisman core/essence out of it, but its a gamble consider buying the essence instead, and after you have atleast enough or 10 talisman cores/essences, consider spamming it to receive the talisman fragments, and get a chance to get some talisman cores/essence
3.a. I see. So I must find 95 Green Talismans and disassemble them to craft 95 Blue Talismans, or buy from TH altogether. Where do I get 95 Green Talismans, aside from buying it from Nightmare Store?
3.b. Do dungeons drop 95 Blue Talismans?

[4]lvl 95 talismans
[5]same as answer #4

[6]lvl 95 jades are only useful for players who doesn't have +10 lvl93 dragon jades, do not consider enhancing your lvl93 dragon jades anymore and use this instead, lvl 95 dragon jades provide a much budget friendly approach for newbies and veterans or comeback players alike, so to speak they are more powerful than a level 93 jade +5, but level 93 +15 dragon jades are superior, because they provide better stat (considering they add 4% on the attribute) and you can swap between critical jades, or vit jades, they provide more survivability than level 95 jades because 95jades gives only vit and a percentage of max hp, unlike the vit jade of level 93 dragon jades, they provide a fixed amount of HP addition to the vit and max hp percentage.
6.a. Thank you. Since I do not have any +15 93 Jades, I guess I'll change all my 93 Jades to 95 Jades since that is more economical. Where do I find 95 Epic Jades, aside from TH and Nest Point Store?

[7]no they cannot, the way to improve level 95 jades is to either craft better rarity, unique or legend, but legend is the most powerful jade of this current patch and current level cap, but are the most expensive, 1 jade could cost 500~650k gold depending on how many times you failed to nail a mid-grade jade heart, or if you purchase this from someone else
[8]no, you just need the crafting materials required to craft the jade, its efficient and budget friendly to craft than to buy, but the stats may vary, it depends on your preference
[9]no
[10]lvl 95 jades
[11]same as answer #10
[12]save them, and save your gold, if you participated on the current surprise event, you may need that to convert your medea t2 +20 into calypse

I am so sorry for asking a lot. I have been backreading a bit since I asked those questions and so far, I have not found the answer.

[I'll re-ask #13. I realised that some people are selling 95 Rare Talismans/95 Epic Jades in TH for reasonable prices, which made me think that there may be other ways to get these other than spending Nightmare/Nest points. And so, where do I get these 95 rare talismans/95 epic jades?] Re-asked in questions 3a and 6a above.

And then I'll add this one:
14. I wasted around 3k gold today trying to complete my T1 Medea Set +10, and then I realised (after backreading) that there is an event which will allow me to get T2 Medea Set +20, lol. I am participating in the event for sure, and so my question is: What is the smartest way to deal with my previous T1 Medea Set +10? It's not storage-able and it's not sellable. So I guess I'll just disassemble it?

**atom100** · 03-31-2018, 04:10 PM

just buy 93 skill accessories crafting materials at TH, they are dirt cheap. or just don't bother w/ 93 accessories , stick to ur chiron, at least u can equip unique jades on them.

Passion, determination . etc. are unique 95 accessories. u can replace chiron if u can get them. they are from magic accessory box which u can get from limitation nest, crystal point shop or GTS priestess w/ 7 Rudn L wrath. or buy them at TH. still cost effective than paying Rudn Hc svc for accessories.

**Mr.Shovels** · 03-31-2018, 08:12 PM

If you cannot afford to buy determination, i suggest you work hard on earning crystal points, to buy a magical accessory box on the crystal point store located near the TH in saint haven (new npc beside the storage dude)

how to farm crystal points:

Purchase Beggar's Box from loffy the begger
each box costs points from different sources, alliance points, dungeon points, nest points, nightmare points, ladder points, wodnerful points.
you can only purchase a single box from the affiliated type of points used to buy the box from, it expires within a week or 7 days
you can only purchase a single box each week, resets at saturday 9 am
each box will give you 10,000 crystal points whenever you meet the requirements
some requirements are to finish 50 dungeon runs, some are to finish 12 HC modes on a nest, but a single box is required you to be active for 30 hours, that box is purchased with ladder points

Details

Each box is different from the other, same name, different requirements to be met, the list are as to follow the rankings from hardest to easiest:
-Beggar's Box (Heatwave Volcano Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 10,000 Cassius Palace Points!
-Beggar's Box (Grievous Guardian Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 7,000 Nest Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Abandoned Wharf) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 10,000 Free Adventurer's Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Phantom Forest Core) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 7,000 Dungeon Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Ancient Chiron City) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 25,000 nightmare points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Secret Seabed Cave) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 5,000 wonderful points
-Beggar's Box (Staying Online) requires 30 hours of online activity, purchased with 800 ladder points (includes AFK)
trick : purchase the same box for 2 weeks!
method: purchase a box you want, let's say 12 runs on VN HC, buy the box on friday or before the server refresh on 9 am saturday, after that wait for the reset, then buy the VN HC box again, this way you can do 2x the box with the same effort on 1 box, less effort, more points, but you can only do this every other week, in order to maximize the quantity of box you can finish, you must plan ahead before that week
planning: dungeon beggar's boxes requires 50 runs on dungeon, it will require 3100 FTG, for 6 days. you can get 6000 FTG, that is if you don't do anything else that requires usage of FTG, like DQ or slayer mode, or entry of lvl95 normal nest that requires 350 ftg to enter if you are out of weekly limit runs, you can only complete 2 pairs of dungeon boxes, so you have to start from day 1 exactly when you bought the pair of box (you can skip the 1st beggar's box purchase on friday or before 9 am saturday, you can spend the ftg there the way you like!)
you can do 3 pairs of dungeon beggar's boxes for a total of 9300 FTG (6 days = 6000 FTG including the benefit of receiving 3 likes for 300 FTG + the daily FTG) by adding up your weekly FTG and the Hotspring benefit on tuesdays and fridays that will give you extra FTG, or you can use your FTG potions.
Maximum beggar's box you can complete if you are eager enough would be is 12:
- 3 pairs of dungeon beggar's box total of 6 (20,000 points on each alliance point bought box, 14,000 for dungeon points, 50,000 nightmare points)
- 2 pairs of nest beggar's box total of 4 (20,000 cassius palace points bought box, 14,000 nest points bought box)
- 2 pairs of beggar's box that needs 30 hours of being active online (1600 ladder points bought box)

So, if you follow up my advice, within 2 weeks, you can purchase a magical accessory box if you have all the points and the patience and effort on doing them (you need to do the beggar's boxes left after you're done within the 1st week, there is still 2 pairs left after that if you get what i mean)

**BabyKuri** · 04-03-2018, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Shovels View Post

If you cannot afford to buy determination, i suggest you work hard on earning crystal points, to buy a magical accessory box on the crystal point store located near the TH in saint haven (new npc beside the storage dude)

how to farm crystal points:

Purchase Beggar's Box from loffy the begger
each box costs points from different sources, alliance points, dungeon points, nest points, nightmare points, ladder points, wodnerful points.
you can only purchase a single box from the affiliated type of points used to buy the box from, it expires within a week or 7 days
you can only purchase a single box each week, resets at saturday 9 am
each box will give you 10,000 crystal points whenever you meet the requirements
some requirements are to finish 50 dungeon runs, some are to finish 12 HC modes on a nest, but a single box is required you to be active for 30 hours, that box is purchased with ladder points

Details

Each box is different from the other, same name, different requirements to be met, the list are as to follow the rankings from hardest to easiest:
-Beggar's Box (Heatwave Volcano Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 10,000 Cassius Palace Points!
-Beggar's Box (Grievous Guardian Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 7,000 Nest Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Abandoned Wharf) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 10,000 Free Adventurer's Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Phantom Forest Core) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 7,000 Dungeon Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Ancient Chiron City) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 25,000 nightmare points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Secret Seabed Cave) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 5,000 wonderful points
-Beggar's Box (Staying Online) requires 30 hours of online activity, purchased with 800 ladder points (includes AFK)
trick : purchase the same box for 2 weeks!
method: purchase a box you want, let's say 12 runs on VN HC, buy the box on friday or before the server refresh on 9 am saturday, after that wait for the reset, then buy the VN HC box again, this way you can do 2x the box with the same effort on 1 box, less effort, more points, but you can only do this every other week, in order to maximize the quantity of box you can finish, you must plan ahead before that week
planning: dungeon beggar's boxes requires 50 runs on dungeon, it will require 3100 FTG, for 6 days. you can get 6000 FTG, that is if you don't do anything else that requires usage of FTG, like DQ or slayer mode, or entry of lvl95 normal nest that requires 350 ftg to enter if you are out of weekly limit runs, you can only complete 2 pairs of dungeon boxes, so you have to start from day 1 exactly when you bought the pair of box (you can skip the 1st beggar's box purchase on friday or before 9 am saturday, you can spend the ftg there the way you like!)
you can do 3 pairs of dungeon beggar's boxes for a total of 9300 FTG (6 days = 6000 FTG including the benefit of receiving 3 likes for 300 FTG + the daily FTG) by adding up your weekly FTG and the Hotspring benefit on tuesdays and fridays that will give you extra FTG, or you can use your FTG potions.
Maximum beggar's box you can complete if you are eager enough would be is 12:
- 3 pairs of dungeon beggar's box total of 6 (20,000 points on each alliance point bought box, 14,000 for dungeon points, 50,000 nightmare points)
- 2 pairs of nest beggar's box total of 4 (20,000 cassius palace points bought box, 14,000 nest points bought box)
- 2 pairs of beggar's box that needs 30 hours of being active online (1600 ladder points bought box)

So, if you follow up my advice, within 2 weeks, you can purchase a magical accessory box if you have all the points and the patience and effort on doing them (you need to do the beggar's boxes left after you're done within the 1st week, there is still 2 pairs left after that if you get what i mean)

• Why do we need 3100 FTG to run 50 dungeons? Isn't it 60 FTG * 50 dungeons = 3000 FTG only?

• Afaik, Ladder is close since January 2017 and we cannot earn Ladder Points so this box is impossible to purchase.

• Just to add, we can enter Hotspring and restore FTG 4 times every Tuesday and 4 times every Friday.
If you didn't enter Hotspring on Monday, you could use your Monday Entry Limit x2 on Tuesday (00:00-08:59) to restore FTG.
(Just take note that you need at least 15 minutes inside the hotspring to get the Lv 3 Buff applied).
You can enter again twice after 9AM reset, making it 4 times * 500 FTG restored = 2000 FTG total.
That would be the same with Thursday/Friday entry limit.

(also take note that players cannot enter Hotspring between 11PM-11:59PM)

**BabyKuri** · 04-03-2018, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Shovels View Post

-snip-[*]Each box is different from the other, same name, different requirements to be met, the list are as to follow the rankings from hardest to easiest:
-Beggar's Box (Heatwave Volcano Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 10,000 Cassius Palace Points!
-Beggar's Box (Grievous Guardian Nest) requires you to complete 12 runs on HC mode, purchased with 7,000 Nest Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Abandoned Wharf) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 10,000 Free Adventurer's Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Phantom Forest Core) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 7,000 Dungeon Points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Ancient Chiron City) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 25,000 nightmare points
-Beggar's Box (Dungeon: Secret Seabed Cave) requires 50 dungeon runs on any difficulty, purchased with 5,000 wonderful points
-Beggar's Box (Staying Online) requires 30 hours of online activity, purchased with 800 ladder points (includes AFK)

-snip-

I also want to add this Guild Bonus that gives 20% Additional Alliance Points.
If you don't have a guild yet, better join one with this bonus before giving your badges to NPCs.
If your guild doesn't have this bonus, better tell your Guildmaster to buy it immediately.

This can help you save up to 28 pcs of Magic Grade Badges!

**elvesguild** · 04-05-2018, 04:22 PM

Thank you, all of you, for sharing such valuable information! I was a bit surprised that the discussion will be this detailed, which I appreciate very much!
I also saw the thread in http://forum.dragonnest.com/forum/se...beggar-s-boxes.

I will read everything (including the other thread) and then post some more questions. I am trying to digest all these new information and absorb them thoroughly.

But in the meantime, thank you so much, once again, to all of you.

**elvesguild** · 04-05-2018, 04:24 PM

Darn it, my previous post that I typed a few secs ago does not appear.

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But anyway, thank you so much, all of you, for sharing those valuable information. I also read the other thread in http://forum.dragonnest.com/forum/se...beggar-s-boxes

These are all new information to me, please allow me to read through all of them, digest it, and absorb it. And then I'll post some other clarifications/questions regarding the matter.

Once again, thanks for the help!! I appreciate all these detailed posts/comments!

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